canada & mobile data access
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Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making
problem here. "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data Access" http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ |
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Pretty sad. Connectivity, like data access is an infrastructure issue.
Hot new companies like Dodgeball or Twitter are a lot less likely to be started in Canada, and if they do, they're less likely to get local customers and succeed. sigh. On 4/10/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote: > Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making > problem here. > > "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data > Access" > > http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- > countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca > -- Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how |
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As a non mobile phone user can you explain to me what mobile data are?
Hugh McGuire wrote: > Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making > problem here. > > "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data > Access" > > http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- > countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca > > > |
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Hi Tracey,
Basically, this refers to being able to download or upload files and browse the web - anything involving data transport that you would normally do over the internet. The same amount of browsing would cost you less than $100 in many countries including Rwanda - but $375 here in Canada with Telus, or up to $1600 with FIDO or Rogers. On 4/11/07, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > As a non mobile phone user can you explain to me what mobile data are? |
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i am a mobile phone nonuser as well, but basically:
-a mobile device (phone, palm, blackberry) can be used to access the internet and transfer data, just as your computer does (photos, databases, audio, etc). -in some (most?) countries, that data transfer is inexpensive ($40-100) for 500 MB of data -in canada, that data transfer is excruciatingly expensive ($300-1600) so basically any application that involves transfering data onto a handheld device through wireless networks is crazy expensive here, so that businesses, individuals, and non-profits are essentially barred from developing & using innovative applications of this tech. (such as, say, political info & photos & speeches of the candidates delivered to your mobile device as you wait in line, deciding how to vote....) corrections welcome if i misstated this. H. On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: > As a non mobile phone user can you explain to me what mobile data are? > > > Hugh McGuire wrote: >> Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making >> problem here. >> >> "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data >> Access" >> >> http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- >> countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- >> discuss_civicaccess.ca >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > discuss_civicaccess.ca |
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Thanks Daniel & Hugh.
Wow! Why the difference in cost between wires and non wires? Why does the size or the mobility of the device matter in terms of what you view? Is it harder to technically deliver content this way? If this is too basic to explain perhaps you can send me to something to read. Sorry for my naivety! Cheers tracey Hugh McGuire wrote: > i am a mobile phone nonuser as well, but basically: > -a mobile device (phone, palm, blackberry) can be used to access the > internet and transfer data, just as your computer does (photos, > databases, audio, etc). > -in some (most?) countries, that data transfer is inexpensive > ($40-100) for 500 MB of data > -in canada, that data transfer is excruciatingly expensive ($300-1600) > > so basically any application that involves transfering data onto a > handheld device through wireless networks is crazy expensive here, so > that businesses, individuals, and non-profits are essentially barred > from developing & using innovative applications of this tech. (such > as, say, political info & photos & speeches of the candidates > delivered to your mobile device as you wait in line, deciding how to > vote....) > > corrections welcome if i misstated this. > > H. > > On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: > > >> As a non mobile phone user can you explain to me what mobile data are? >> >> >> Hugh McGuire wrote: >> >>> Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making >>> problem here. >>> >>> "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data >>> Access" >>> >>> http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- >>> countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- >>> discuss_civicaccess.ca >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- >> discuss_civicaccess.ca >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca > > > |
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The simple answer is: the prices are higher because there's less
competition. Whether you're connecting via cellphone or "portable Internet" (inukshuk), you're dealing with one of two or three companies. These three also control the largest wifi hotspot network in Canada. It makes Dave Dobbin look like a freedom fighter. <smile> Gabe On 4/11/07, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks Daniel & Hugh. > Wow! > Why the difference in cost between wires and non wires? Why does the > size or the mobility of the device matter in terms of what you view? Is > it harder to technically deliver content this way? If this is too basic > to explain perhaps you can send me to something to read. Sorry for my > naivety! > > Cheers > tracey > > Hugh McGuire wrote: > > i am a mobile phone nonuser as well, but basically: > > -a mobile device (phone, palm, blackberry) can be used to access the > > internet and transfer data, just as your computer does (photos, > > databases, audio, etc). > > -in some (most?) countries, that data transfer is inexpensive > > ($40-100) for 500 MB of data > > -in canada, that data transfer is excruciatingly expensive ($300-1600) > > > > so basically any application that involves transfering data onto a > > handheld device through wireless networks is crazy expensive here, so > > that businesses, individuals, and non-profits are essentially barred > > from developing & using innovative applications of this tech. (such > > as, say, political info & photos & speeches of the candidates > > delivered to your mobile device as you wait in line, deciding how to > > vote....) > > > > corrections welcome if i misstated this. > > > > H. > > > > On Apr 11, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: > > > > > >> As a non mobile phone user can you explain to me what mobile data are? > >> > >> > >> Hugh McGuire wrote: > >> > >>> Not strictly about civicaccess, but part of a similar policy-making > >>> problem here. > >>> > >>> "Canada Worse than 3rd World Countries when it comes to Mobile Data > >>> Access" > >>> > >>> http://www.thomaspurves.com/2007/04/09/canada-worse-than-3rd-world- > >>> countries-when-it-comes-to-mobile-data-access/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > >>> discuss_civicaccess.ca > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > >> [hidden email] > >> http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > >> discuss_civicaccess.ca > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca > |
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