New York newspaper posts map with names and addresses of handgun permit owners
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New York newspaper posts map with names and addresses of handgun permit owners
 
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"Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?" That's the question posed by The Journal News, a New York newspaper that published a Google map on Sunday that shows the names and addresses of pistol or revolver permits in Westchester and Rockland counties.
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This is most concerning and a disgusting disregard to the privacy of individuals.
Americans have a constitutional right to bare arms. On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Peder Jakobsen <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Changing the topic, because the reaction is strong.
Le 26 déc. 2012 à 12:32, Immanuel Giulea a écrit : > This is most concerning and a disgusting disregard to the privacy of individuals. Americans have a constitutional right to bare arms. It's the full topic about open data and the self in the community. At one point the data are about each individuals, then the representation of these data can be precise (raw data list) or plotted with a dot to pinpoint the exact location. Here in this case the map has been done using SOME of the data accessible by law. http://www.lohud.com/article/20121224/NEWS04/312240045/The-gun-owner-next-door-What-you-don-t-know-about-weapons-your-neighborhood > Anyone can find out the names and addresses of handgun owners in any county with a simple Freedom of Information Law request, and the state’s top public records expert told The Journal News last week that he thinks the law does not bar the release of other details. But officials in county clerk’s offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam maintain the public does not have a right to see such things as the specific permits an individual has been issued, the types of handguns a person possesses or the number of guns he or she owns — whether one or a dozen. It is by law that people had access to the information. Should it be sealed and not accessible? A way to minimize the impact is to usually make a heatmap instead of a pinpoint map, but this is on the Tartuffe side if the data are still freely available. Expectations vary widely depending on the country. In Norway, all tax payers are publicly listed: names, addresses and tax they pay. In Japan, on printed maps, there is the name of the owner of the house (when it is a detailed map) for individual houses. -- Karl Dubost Montréal, QC, Canada http://www.la-grange.net/karl/ |
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The registry of gun owners/licencees shouldn't exist in the first place, so it wouldn't be available.
On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Karl Dubost <[hidden email]> wrote: Changing the topic, because the reaction is strong. |
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Agree with Karl. Let's just avoid this conversation.
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In reply to this post by Immanuel Giulea
On 2012-12-25, at 10:32 PM, Immanuel Giulea <[hidden email]> wrote: This is most concerning and a disgusting disregard to the privacy of individuals. This argument is weak. The Constitution of the United States is not static (#27) 1865, 13th amendment, abolition of slavery. 1920, 19th amendment, universal suffrage for women. 1992, the last amendment (#27) The constitution will be amended again in the future. Thus, argue more effectively for the right to bear arms on ethical and sociological grounds. Dissemination of information is a primary driver of political (and thus constitutional) change. This map offers a glimpse of the future of politics, where spin can no longer be so easily controlled. The opposition is welcome to make a map showing the number of violent home invasions in the same area. Peder
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In reply to this post by Immanuel Giulea
On 2012-12-25, at 11:03 PM, Immanuel Giulea <[hidden email]> wrote: The registry of gun owners/licencees shouldn't exist in the first place, so it wouldn't be available. Not quite. Have you checked the cookies in your browser lately? There is a profile on you, your hobbies, interests, and buying behaviour that is currently being sold on the open market. If you want that degree of privacy, your only option is to move off the grid. So don't fight the future, just open the data. :) P.J. |
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A social comment, I would think, on this previous topic.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/newspaper-that-printed-gun-owner-names-hires-armed-guards/ On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Peder Jakobsen <[hidden email]> wrote:
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