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Tracey P. Lauriault
A city close to me is thinking about adopting the City of Vancouver
resolution on open data.  Do you see anything missing in this list?
Can it be improved?

At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.

Cheers
t
**************************
(via http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm)

2.    Open Data, Open Standards and Open Source
MOVED by Councillor Reimer
SECONDED by Councillor Meggs
      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver is committed to bringing the
community into City Hall
      by engaging citizens, and soliciting their ideas, input and
creative energy;

      WHEREAS municipalities across Canada have an opportunity to
dramatically lower their
      costs by collectively sharing and supporting software they use and create;

      WHEREAS the total value of public data is maximized when
provided for free or where
      necessary only a minimal cost of distribution;

      WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens are enabled to use
and re-purpose it to
      help create a more economically vibrant and environmentally
sustainable city;

      WHEREAS Vancouver needs to look for opportunities for creating
economic activity and
      partnership with the creative tech sector;

      WHEREAS the adoption of open standards improves transparency,
access to city
      information by citizens and businesses and improved coordination
and efficiencies
      across municipal boundaries and with federal and provincial partners;

      WHEREAS the Integrated Cadastral Information Society (ICIS) is a
not-for-profit society
      created as a partnership between local government, provincial
government and major
      utility companies in British Columbia to share and integrate
spatial data to which 88%
      of BC local governments are members but Vancouver is not;

      WHEREAS digital innovation can enhance citizen communications,
support the brand of
      the city as creative and innovative, improve service delivery,
support citizens to self-
      organize and solve their own problems, and create a stronger
sense of civic
      engagement, community, and pride;

      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data
and information, and
      has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.

      THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the City of Vancouver endorses the
principles of:

          •    Open and Accessible Data - the City of Vancouver will
freely share with
               citizens, businesses and other jurisdictions the
greatest amount of data
               possible while respecting privacy and security concerns;

          •    Open Standards - the City of Vancouver will move as
quickly as possible to
               adopt prevailing open standards for data, documents,
maps, and other formats
               of media;

          •    Open Source Software - the City of Vancouver, when
replacing existing
               software or considering new applications, will place
open source software on
               an equal footing with commercial systems during
procurement cycles; and

       BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT in pursuit of open data the City of
Vancouver will:

           •   Identify immediate opportunities to distribute more of its data;

           •   Index, publish and syndicate its data to the internet
using prevailing open
               standards, interfaces and formats;

           •   Develop appropriate agreements to share its data with
the Integrated Cadastral
               Information Society (ICIS) and encourage the ICIS to in
turn share its data with
               the public at large;

           •   Develop a plan to digitize and freely distribute
suitable archival data to the
               public;

           •   Ensure that data supplied to the City by third parties
(developers, contractors,
               consultants) are unlicensed, in a prevailing open
standard format, and not
               copyrighted except if otherwise prevented by legal
considerations;

           •   License any software applications developed by the City
of Vancouver such that
               they may be used by other municipalities, businesses,
and the public without
               restriction.

       BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the City Manager be tasked with
developing an action
       plan for implementation of the above.

Referred
                                             *****



--
Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault

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Re: Need your input - city open data resolution

Glen Newton
"WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens [ADD: " and private
industry"] are enabled to use and re-purpose it to help create a more
economically vibrant and environmentally sustainable city;"

-Glen Newton
http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/

2009/11/14 Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>:

> A city close to me is thinking about adopting the City of Vancouver
> resolution on open data.  Do you see anything missing in this list?
> Can it be improved?
>
> At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
> ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.
>
> Cheers
> t
> **************************
> (via http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm)
>
> 2.    Open Data, Open Standards and Open Source
> MOVED by Councillor Reimer
> SECONDED by Councillor Meggs
>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver is committed to bringing the
> community into City Hall
>      by engaging citizens, and soliciting their ideas, input and
> creative energy;
>
>      WHEREAS municipalities across Canada have an opportunity to
> dramatically lower their
>      costs by collectively sharing and supporting software they use and create;
>
>      WHEREAS the total value of public data is maximized when
> provided for free or where
>      necessary only a minimal cost of distribution;
>
>      WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens are enabled to use
> and re-purpose it to
>      help create a more economically vibrant and environmentally
> sustainable city;
>
>      WHEREAS Vancouver needs to look for opportunities for creating
> economic activity and
>      partnership with the creative tech sector;
>
>      WHEREAS the adoption of open standards improves transparency,
> access to city
>      information by citizens and businesses and improved coordination
> and efficiencies
>      across municipal boundaries and with federal and provincial partners;
>
>      WHEREAS the Integrated Cadastral Information Society (ICIS) is a
> not-for-profit society
>      created as a partnership between local government, provincial
> government and major
>      utility companies in British Columbia to share and integrate
> spatial data to which 88%
>      of BC local governments are members but Vancouver is not;
>
>      WHEREAS digital innovation can enhance citizen communications,
> support the brand of
>      the city as creative and innovative, improve service delivery,
> support citizens to self-
>      organize and solve their own problems, and create a stronger
> sense of civic
>      engagement, community, and pride;
>
>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data
> and information, and
>      has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.
>
>      THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the City of Vancouver endorses the
> principles of:
>
>          •    Open and Accessible Data - the City of Vancouver will
> freely share with
>               citizens, businesses and other jurisdictions the
> greatest amount of data
>               possible while respecting privacy and security concerns;
>
>          •    Open Standards - the City of Vancouver will move as
> quickly as possible to
>               adopt prevailing open standards for data, documents,
> maps, and other formats
>               of media;
>
>          •    Open Source Software - the City of Vancouver, when
> replacing existing
>               software or considering new applications, will place
> open source software on
>               an equal footing with commercial systems during
> procurement cycles; and
>
>       BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT in pursuit of open data the City of
> Vancouver will:
>
>           •   Identify immediate opportunities to distribute more of its data;
>
>           •   Index, publish and syndicate its data to the internet
> using prevailing open
>               standards, interfaces and formats;
>
>           •   Develop appropriate agreements to share its data with
> the Integrated Cadastral
>               Information Society (ICIS) and encourage the ICIS to in
> turn share its data with
>               the public at large;
>
>           •   Develop a plan to digitize and freely distribute
> suitable archival data to the
>               public;
>
>           •   Ensure that data supplied to the City by third parties
> (developers, contractors,
>               consultants) are unlicensed, in a prevailing open
> standard format, and not
>               copyrighted except if otherwise prevented by legal
> considerations;
>
>           •   License any software applications developed by the City
> of Vancouver such that
>               they may be used by other municipalities, businesses,
> and the public without
>               restriction.
>
>       BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the City Manager be tasked with
> developing an action
>       plan for implementation of the above.
>
> Referred
>                                             *****
>
>
>
> --
> Tracey P. Lauriault
> 613-234-2805
> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>



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Russell McOrmond-2
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Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
> ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.

  In what way are you thinking of interoperability that isn't covered by
open standards?  It may be that what you are thinking of is already
covered, or we could help with specific language if you are thinking of
something missing.

--
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 Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property
 rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition!
 http://www.digital-copyright.ca/petition/ict/

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  manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or
  portable media player from my cold dead hands!"

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Tracey P. Lauriault
Overall, do you think the language of the Vancouver resolution covers
all the angles?  Is there anything missing?

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Russell McOrmond <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>> At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
>> ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.
>
>  In what way are you thinking of interoperability that isn't covered by
> open standards?  It may be that what you are thinking of is already
> covered, or we could help with specific language if you are thinking of
> something missing.
>
> --
>  Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/>
>  Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property
>  rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition!
>  http://www.digital-copyright.ca/petition/ict/
>
>  "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware
>  manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or
>  portable media player from my cold dead hands!"
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>



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Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault

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Russell McOrmond-2
Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> Overall, do you think the language of the Vancouver resolution covers
> all the angles?  Is there anything missing?

  To me it works at the political level.  The devil is always in the
details, but those details are things that staff and not the politicians
tend to deal in.

Remember: There are people who think that DRM locked files and/or patent
encumbered (without RF licensing) file formats can be "open standards".
 That's a level of detail you don't want to try to get into with
municipal politicians -- at least until they try being open generally
and bump into these details.

--
 Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/>
 Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property
 rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition!
 http://www.digital-copyright.ca/petition/ict/

 "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware
  manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or
  portable media player from my cold dead hands!"

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Tracey P. Lauriault
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Thanks all!  I got some good responses and sent them to the City.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
A city close to me is thinking about adopting the City of Vancouver
resolution on open data.  Do you see anything missing in this list?
Can it be improved?

At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.

Cheers
t
**************************
(via http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm)

2.    Open Data, Open Standards and Open Source
MOVED by Councillor Reimer
SECONDED by Councillor Meggs
     WHEREAS the City of Vancouver is committed to bringing the
community into City Hall
     by engaging citizens, and soliciting their ideas, input and
creative energy;

     WHEREAS municipalities across Canada have an opportunity to
dramatically lower their
     costs by collectively sharing and supporting software they use and create;

     WHEREAS the total value of public data is maximized when
provided for free or where
     necessary only a minimal cost of distribution;

     WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens are enabled to use
and re-purpose it to
     help create a more economically vibrant and environmentally
sustainable city;

     WHEREAS Vancouver needs to look for opportunities for creating
economic activity and
     partnership with the creative tech sector;

     WHEREAS the adoption of open standards improves transparency,
access to city
     information by citizens and businesses and improved coordination
and efficiencies
     across municipal boundaries and with federal and provincial partners;

     WHEREAS the Integrated Cadastral Information Society (ICIS) is a
not-for-profit society
     created as a partnership between local government, provincial
government and major
     utility companies in British Columbia to share and integrate
spatial data to which 88%
     of BC local governments are members but Vancouver is not;

     WHEREAS digital innovation can enhance citizen communications,
support the brand of
     the city as creative and innovative, improve service delivery,
support citizens to self-
     organize and solve their own problems, and create a stronger
sense of civic
     engagement, community, and pride;

     WHEREAS the City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data
and information, and
     has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.

     THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the City of Vancouver endorses the
principles of:

         •    Open and Accessible Data - the City of Vancouver will
freely share with
              citizens, businesses and other jurisdictions the
greatest amount of data
              possible while respecting privacy and security concerns;

         •    Open Standards - the City of Vancouver will move as
quickly as possible to
              adopt prevailing open standards for data, documents,
maps, and other formats
              of media;

         •    Open Source Software - the City of Vancouver, when
replacing existing
              software or considering new applications, will place
open source software on
              an equal footing with commercial systems during
procurement cycles; and

      BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT in pursuit of open data the City of
Vancouver will:

          •   Identify immediate opportunities to distribute more of its data;

          •   Index, publish and syndicate its data to the internet
using prevailing open
              standards, interfaces and formats;

          •   Develop appropriate agreements to share its data with
the Integrated Cadastral
              Information Society (ICIS) and encourage the ICIS to in
turn share its data with
              the public at large;

          •   Develop a plan to digitize and freely distribute
suitable archival data to the
              public;

          •   Ensure that data supplied to the City by third parties
(developers, contractors,
              consultants) are unlicensed, in a prevailing open
standard format, and not
              copyrighted except if otherwise prevented by legal
considerations;

          •   License any software applications developed by the City
of Vancouver such that
              they may be used by other municipalities, businesses,
and the public without
              restriction.

      BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the City Manager be tasked with
developing an action
      plan for implementation of the above.

Referred
                                            *****



--
Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault



--
Tracey P. Lauriault
613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
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Yannick Brosseau
Hi all,

Has anybody did the work of translating this resolution into french?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks all!  I got some good responses and sent them to the City.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> A city close to me is thinking about adopting the City of Vancouver
>> resolution on open data.  Do you see anything missing in this list?
>> Can it be improved?
>>
>> At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
>> ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.
>>
>> Cheers
>> t
>> **************************
>> (via http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm)
>>
>> 2.    Open Data, Open Standards and Open Source
>> MOVED by Councillor Reimer
>> SECONDED by Councillor Meggs
>>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver is committed to bringing the
>> community into City Hall
>>      by engaging citizens, and soliciting their ideas, input and
>> creative energy;
>>
>>      WHEREAS municipalities across Canada have an opportunity to
>> dramatically lower their
>>      costs by collectively sharing and supporting software they use and
>> create;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the total value of public data is maximized when
>> provided for free or where
>>      necessary only a minimal cost of distribution;
>>
>>      WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens are enabled to use
>> and re-purpose it to
>>      help create a more economically vibrant and environmentally
>> sustainable city;
>>
>>      WHEREAS Vancouver needs to look for opportunities for creating
>> economic activity and
>>      partnership with the creative tech sector;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the adoption of open standards improves transparency,
>> access to city
>>      information by citizens and businesses and improved coordination
>> and efficiencies
>>      across municipal boundaries and with federal and provincial partners;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the Integrated Cadastral Information Society (ICIS) is a
>> not-for-profit society
>>      created as a partnership between local government, provincial
>> government and major
>>      utility companies in British Columbia to share and integrate
>> spatial data to which 88%
>>      of BC local governments are members but Vancouver is not;
>>
>>      WHEREAS digital innovation can enhance citizen communications,
>> support the brand of
>>      the city as creative and innovative, improve service delivery,
>> support citizens to self-
>>      organize and solve their own problems, and create a stronger
>> sense of civic
>>      engagement, community, and pride;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data
>> and information, and
>>      has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.
>>
>>      THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the City of Vancouver endorses the
>> principles of:
>>
>>          •    Open and Accessible Data - the City of Vancouver will
>> freely share with
>>               citizens, businesses and other jurisdictions the
>> greatest amount of data
>>               possible while respecting privacy and security concerns;
>>
>>          •    Open Standards - the City of Vancouver will move as
>> quickly as possible to
>>               adopt prevailing open standards for data, documents,
>> maps, and other formats
>>               of media;
>>
>>          •    Open Source Software - the City of Vancouver, when
>> replacing existing
>>               software or considering new applications, will place
>> open source software on
>>               an equal footing with commercial systems during
>> procurement cycles; and
>>
>>       BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT in pursuit of open data the City of
>> Vancouver will:
>>
>>           •   Identify immediate opportunities to distribute more of its
>> data;
>>
>>           •   Index, publish and syndicate its data to the internet
>> using prevailing open
>>               standards, interfaces and formats;
>>
>>           •   Develop appropriate agreements to share its data with
>> the Integrated Cadastral
>>               Information Society (ICIS) and encourage the ICIS to in
>> turn share its data with
>>               the public at large;
>>
>>           •   Develop a plan to digitize and freely distribute
>> suitable archival data to the
>>               public;
>>
>>           •   Ensure that data supplied to the City by third parties
>> (developers, contractors,
>>               consultants) are unlicensed, in a prevailing open
>> standard format, and not
>>               copyrighted except if otherwise prevented by legal
>> considerations;
>>
>>           •   License any software applications developed by the City
>> of Vancouver such that
>>               they may be used by other municipalities, businesses,
>> and the public without
>>               restriction.
>>
>>       BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the City Manager be tasked with
>> developing an action
>>       plan for implementation of the above.
>>
>> Referred
>>                                             *****
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> 613-234-2805
>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
>
>
>
> --
> Tracey P. Lauriault
> 613-234-2805
> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
>
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>



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Yannick Brosseau
www.projetmontreal.org
Consultant en logiciel libre
yannickbrosseau.com

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Tracey P. Lauriault
not that I know of!  It would be great to give it a go - I can review if you wish to start!

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Yannick Brosseau <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

Has anybody did the work of translating this resolution into french?

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks all!  I got some good responses and sent them to the City.
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> A city close to me is thinking about adopting the City of Vancouver
>> resolution on open data.  Do you see anything missing in this list?
>> Can it be improved?
>>
>> At a glance I see interoperability missing.  Anything else?  Your
>> ideas and thoughts will  be used as info for the city officials.
>>
>> Cheers
>> t
>> **************************
>> (via http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm)
>>
>> 2.    Open Data, Open Standards and Open Source
>> MOVED by Councillor Reimer
>> SECONDED by Councillor Meggs
>>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver is committed to bringing the
>> community into City Hall
>>      by engaging citizens, and soliciting their ideas, input and
>> creative energy;
>>
>>      WHEREAS municipalities across Canada have an opportunity to
>> dramatically lower their
>>      costs by collectively sharing and supporting software they use and
>> create;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the total value of public data is maximized when
>> provided for free or where
>>      necessary only a minimal cost of distribution;
>>
>>      WHEREAS when data is shared freely, citizens are enabled to use
>> and re-purpose it to
>>      help create a more economically vibrant and environmentally
>> sustainable city;
>>
>>      WHEREAS Vancouver needs to look for opportunities for creating
>> economic activity and
>>      partnership with the creative tech sector;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the adoption of open standards improves transparency,
>> access to city
>>      information by citizens and businesses and improved coordination
>> and efficiencies
>>      across municipal boundaries and with federal and provincial partners;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the Integrated Cadastral Information Society (ICIS) is a
>> not-for-profit society
>>      created as a partnership between local government, provincial
>> government and major
>>      utility companies in British Columbia to share and integrate
>> spatial data to which 88%
>>      of BC local governments are members but Vancouver is not;
>>
>>      WHEREAS digital innovation can enhance citizen communications,
>> support the brand of
>>      the city as creative and innovative, improve service delivery,
>> support citizens to self-
>>      organize and solve their own problems, and create a stronger
>> sense of civic
>>      engagement, community, and pride;
>>
>>      WHEREAS the City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data
>> and information, and
>>      has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.
>>
>>      THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the City of Vancouver endorses the
>> principles of:
>>
>>          •    Open and Accessible Data - the City of Vancouver will
>> freely share with
>>               citizens, businesses and other jurisdictions the
>> greatest amount of data
>>               possible while respecting privacy and security concerns;
>>
>>          •    Open Standards - the City of Vancouver will move as
>> quickly as possible to
>>               adopt prevailing open standards for data, documents,
>> maps, and other formats
>>               of media;
>>
>>          •    Open Source Software - the City of Vancouver, when
>> replacing existing
>>               software or considering new applications, will place
>> open source software on
>>               an equal footing with commercial systems during
>> procurement cycles; and
>>
>>       BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT in pursuit of open data the City of
>> Vancouver will:
>>
>>           •   Identify immediate opportunities to distribute more of its
>> data;
>>
>>           •   Index, publish and syndicate its data to the internet
>> using prevailing open
>>               standards, interfaces and formats;
>>
>>           •   Develop appropriate agreements to share its data with
>> the Integrated Cadastral
>>               Information Society (ICIS) and encourage the ICIS to in
>> turn share its data with
>>               the public at large;
>>
>>           •   Develop a plan to digitize and freely distribute
>> suitable archival data to the
>>               public;
>>
>>           •   Ensure that data supplied to the City by third parties
>> (developers, contractors,
>>               consultants) are unlicensed, in a prevailing open
>> standard format, and not
>>               copyrighted except if otherwise prevented by legal
>> considerations;
>>
>>           •   License any software applications developed by the City
>> of Vancouver such that
>>               they may be used by other municipalities, businesses,
>> and the public without
>>               restriction.
>>
>>       BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED THAT the City Manager be tasked with
>> developing an action
>>       plan for implementation of the above.
>>
>> Referred
>>                                             *****
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> 613-234-2805
>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
>
>
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> 613-234-2805
> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
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