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Hi all,
I've been thinking we should try to get an active project going within the civicaccess.ca group (and elsewhere). I just registered a domain visiblepolitics.org and outlined a project here: http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com/2007/01/31/visiblepoliticsorg/ any interest? nothing but an idea and a URL at the moment. if interested, pls comment on the site. Cheers, Hugh. --------------------------------------------------- http://librivox.org http://collectik.net http://textosolvo.net http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com ---------------------------------------------------- |
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On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I've been thinking we should try to get an active project going > within the civicaccess.ca group (and elsewhere). I just registered a > domain visiblepolitics.org and outlined a project here: > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com/2007/01/31/visiblepoliticsorg/ > > any interest? nothing but an idea and a URL at the moment. if > interested, pls comment on the site. I replied thru my blog that I couldn't really reply right away - at least linking to your idea. I didn't read your post carefully enough, but I was wondering if we really want a wiki, or something more formal to do this, since we know in advance the sort of structure we'll be aiming for, and loose ends can be compensated with tags. -- Robin 'oqp' Millette : http://rym.waglo.com/ |
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main thing is to allow anyone to edit, to let people put the info in
realtime. otherwise, need a structure (ie funding - yuk) to get all the info in, which will be a nightmare. h. On Jan 31, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Robin Millette wrote: > On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I've been thinking we should try to get an active project going >> within the civicaccess.ca group (and elsewhere). I just registered a >> domain visiblepolitics.org and outlined a project here: >> http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com/2007/01/31/visiblepoliticsorg/ >> >> any interest? nothing but an idea and a URL at the moment. if >> interested, pls comment on the site. > > I replied thru my blog that I couldn't really reply right away - at > least linking to your idea. I didn't read your post carefully enough, > but I was wondering if we really want a wiki, or something more formal > to do this, since we know in advance the sort of structure we'll be > aiming for, and loose ends can be compensated with tags. > > -- > Robin 'oqp' Millette : http://rym.waglo.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > discuss_civicaccess.ca |
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On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote:
> main thing is to allow anyone to edit, to let people put the info in > realtime. otherwise, need a structure (ie funding - yuk) to get all > the info in, which will be a nightmare. I meant the structure of the information. Funding isn't really what I'm known for ;) I'm thinking of Drupal, for instance. I'm getting my hands into that more and more these days. But it's a little early to debate this. I'm happy to see you're open, good enough for me for now :) -- Robin 'oqp' Millette : http://rym.waglo.com/ |
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Hi Hugh
That's an interesting idea but I have difficulties to see what's the target. I have zillions of ideas about that topic but the "how" remain obscur to me. Please, no wiki. Drupal why not, I don't know it. I remember that once Boris/Bopuc told me he had an idea for a website architecture that could fit to structure political data/concerns/ideas. I don't know if he did anything with that. Interesting stuff that I searched recently (and could provide project data) : - Election Canada's donor database (list the donor for political parties : amount, names, zip code). - The list of lobbyist at Ottawa (3000 people registrered with their clients and the ministers they target) By the way : I may present a "chronique" at the radio next week (CIBL Montréal) about the use of political data (and CivicAccess). Stay tuned, I'll send another mail if it's confirmed. Cheers Steph On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, |
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the main purpose is to get canadian election information (ie about
the politicians running in elections) into one an easily accessible place, for the purpose of comparison, to decide who to vote for. right now you have to spend lots of time fishing around on the net to do it. ideally this could include some substantive stuff on specific issues (for instance statements about healthcare/environment/net neutrality/copyright/afghanistan/ etc etc) but this part could be more difficult to manage. But one main objective would be to get funding info out there: eg who funds Bev Oda? etc. this is public info but it is abysmally presented by the media, and accessible but very ugly and difficult format from the government... and not even linkable if you can believe it. the wiki/drupal debate should happen elsewhere and not on this thread ;) h. --------------------------------------------------- http://librivox.org http://collectik.net http://textosolvo.net http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com ---------------------------------------------------- On Feb 1, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Stéphane Zagar wrote: > Hi Hugh > > That's an interesting idea but I have difficulties to see what's > the target. I have zillions of ideas about that topic but the "how" > remain obscur to me. > > Please, no wiki. Drupal why not, I don't know it. I remember that > once Boris/Bopuc told me he had an idea for a website architecture > that could fit to structure political data/concerns/ideas. I don't > know if he did anything with that. > > Interesting stuff that I searched recently (and could provide > project data) : > - Election Canada's donor database (list the donor for political > parties : amount, names, zip code). > - The list of lobbyist at Ottawa (3000 people registrered with > their clients and the ministers they target) > > By the way : I may present a "chronique" at the radio next week > (CIBL Montréal) about the use of political data (and CivicAccess). > Stay tuned, I'll send another mail if it's confirmed. > > Cheers > > Steph > > On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, > > I've been thinking we should try to get an active project going > within the civicaccess.ca group (and elsewhere). I just registered a > domain visiblepolitics.org and outlined a project here: > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com/2007/01/31/visiblepoliticsorg/ > > any interest? nothing but an idea and a URL at the moment. if > interested, pls comment on the site. > > Cheers, > Hugh. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://librivox.org > http://collectik.net > http://textosolvo.net > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > discuss_civicaccess.ca > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > discuss_civicaccess.ca |
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There are a number of groups in the U.S. that have been doing this type
of analysis for a while as they have the same problem down there. Some are somewhat general while others track by corporation, etc. There's a new group (am trying to find the name) that is building a site you can use to trace your congressman's campaign contributions at the same time as seeing what way he's voted on communications bills, etc. On Thu, 2007-01-02 at 15:30 -0500, Hugh McGuire wrote: > the main purpose is to get canadian election information (ie about > the politicians running in elections) into one an easily accessible > place, for the purpose of comparison, to decide who to vote for. > right now you have to spend lots of time fishing around on the net to > do it. ideally this could include some substantive stuff on specific > issues (for instance statements about healthcare/environment/net > neutrality/copyright/afghanistan/ etc etc) but this part could be > more difficult to manage. > > But one main objective would be to get funding info out there: eg who > funds Bev Oda? etc. this is public info but it is abysmally presented > by the media, and accessible but very ugly and difficult format from > the government... and not even linkable if you can believe it. > > the wiki/drupal debate should happen elsewhere and not on this thread ;) > > h. > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://librivox.org > http://collectik.net > http://textosolvo.net > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > On Feb 1, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Stéphane Zagar wrote: > > > Hi Hugh > > > > That's an interesting idea but I have difficulties to see what's > > the target. I have zillions of ideas about that topic but the "how" > > remain obscur to me. > > > > Please, no wiki. Drupal why not, I don't know it. I remember that > > once Boris/Bopuc told me he had an idea for a website architecture > > that could fit to structure political data/concerns/ideas. I don't > > know if he did anything with that. > > > > Interesting stuff that I searched recently (and could provide > > project data) : > > - Election Canada's donor database (list the donor for political > > parties : amount, names, zip code). > > - The list of lobbyist at Ottawa (3000 people registrered with > > their clients and the ministers they target) > > > > By the way : I may present a "chronique" at the radio next week > > (CIBL Montréal) about the use of political data (and CivicAccess). > > Stay tuned, I'll send another mail if it's confirmed. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steph > > > > On 1/31/07, Hugh McGuire <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, > > > > I've been thinking we should try to get an active project going > > within the civicaccess.ca group (and elsewhere). I just registered a > > domain visiblepolitics.org and outlined a project here: > > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com/2007/01/31/visiblepoliticsorg/ > > > > any interest? nothing but an idea and a URL at the moment. if > > interested, pls comment on the site. > > > > Cheers, > > Hugh. > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > http://librivox.org > > http://collectik.net > > http://textosolvo.net > > http://dosemagazine.blogsome.com > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > > discuss_civicaccess.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess- > > discuss_civicaccess.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://civicaccess.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss_civicaccess.ca |
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