Re: front de liberation de codes postal

Posted by liss jeffrey on Feb 09, 2007; 7:39pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/front-de-liberation-de-codes-postal-tp884p892.html


Yes i support this also, and will take the idea to our New Democracy Workshop on Monday when we next meet ( netizen-news.ca has details).

Our projects, including ecommons/agora ( ecommons.net ), and bydesign-elab.net include technical experts and developers as well as community and policy experts and producers. The many sister sites we have created are designed to be constellation sites (meaning no one main body), orbiting under the eLab slogan ' we exist not to reinvent the wheel, but to connect the spokes.'
So you could say that we are all operating in a kind of parallel public interest space :)

In line with our strategic approach, not reinventing wheels, and this civic access idea, I can contact the existing Data Liberation Front, which has members from Stats Can. I am sure they could offer some solid advice on how to make this work.
We could each act in our respective areas of competence, and report into the wiki and on our own sites.
Previously while helping David Mason with his project to make a Canadian they work for you site ( the original is British), I arranged an Ottawa meeting with a spokesperson for Hansard, as David ( and his group) wanted to reuse  Hansard data.
That project alas fell victim to David ( and Stefan's) time crunch, but  this idea would I am sure enjoy the same support from our various associates.

So we are on board with this idea and can help.

Liss Jeffrey, PhD
Diector, McLuhan global research network
 
  


 

On 2/9/07, Olivier Charbonneau <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Civic Access !

I am sorry for not responding to these emails - many fires to take care of (and many more to start). First off, I am not a lawyer and this is forwarded on the list for discussion purposes only. Facts are not protected by copyright, UNLESS there is some originality in the selection. An exhaustive list of facts CANNOT BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT. On the other hand, one could impose CONTRACTUAL limitations to using data (unoriginal compilation of facts)... but not within the copyright framework.

This being said, I can get the major library association to support this action - in fact, I am working on a coalition of consumer/library/education institutions, and I hope to be able to provide documentation in the next few months... but in the interim, once a consensus is reached from your group, please contact me directly (I can't read all the posts on the list - no time) and we<ll discuss how we can get the library organisations on board.

Take care group - and congratulations for the awsome energy and work !
Olivier
PS. here is what I am working on these days:
<a href="http://www.booknetcanada.com/events/index.html" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.booknetcanada.com/events/index.html
(look at the panel at 4:15 on March 21st)

Many thanks! Merci et au plaisir!

Olivier Charbonneau
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Hugh McGuire wrote:

of course it's a civicaccess action ;-) !

actually thinking about this... and this is how I envision  
CivicAccess progressing... as a central place where the spokes of  
many different projects all join with a shared belief in free data  

access. but we really need the projects (some exist already, eg:  
<a href="http://howdtheyvote.ca" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">howdtheyvote.ca, <a href="http://openpolitics.ca" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
openpolitics.ca, <a href="http://netizen-news.ca" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">netizen-news.ca etc; some could be  
new initiatives of/inspired by civicaccess ... or just related to the  

mission).

h.




On Feb 9, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:

  

I think this is a great idea and I would really like it if could be
considered as as CivicAccess or COACID action.

For those who might be able to get something like this off the ground.
There is tons of great information here:

<a href="http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/CensusAction" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/CensusAction

It was an activity primarily aimed at the CENSUS however some of the
documentation can be used for the Free the Postal Code Data as well  
and
there was some good discussion.

I created a spot for people to collaborate here:
<a href="http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/Actions" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/Actions,  I did not know how you wanted to
call it or what the tagline should so edit away.



Hugh McGuire wrote:
    

I suggest in addition to data cracking/hacking work, we consider
writing an open letter to the government agencies & ministers,
opposition MPs, and journalists, and try to put some pressure on. And

get an online petition going (I don't think they do much, but they
give something for bloggers to link to). This should be accompanied
by a concerted attempt to get specific organizations to support the
project (NGOs & universities, but also, say, the Bloc, the NDP, maybe

even the now-oppositional Liberals).

perhaps a url? FLCP.ca ... Front de Liberation Code Postal ... it's
available! ;).

Again, this "tiny" little data project demonstrates so clearly the

dunderheadedness of Canada's govt data policies, in a way that many
people could understand.



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