http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Freeing-Census-Data-vs-Linux-Access-tp602p627.html
Here is the salient passage. It deals with total Statistics
"In 1994-95, Statistics Canada had an operating budget of $319 million. Of this,
some $44 million was revenue credited to the vote (i.e. revenues generated from
sales of products and services). According to information obtained through the
> The principal published source for this kind of information
> is the Estimates, available on the Treasury Board Secretariat
> site at
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/tb/estimate/estime.html.
>
> The site seems to be down this morning. I assume this will
> be rectified shortly.
>
> I compiled this information for the 1996 Census, relying upon
> the Estimates and information obtained using the Access to Information
> Act. I have the details at home, but I have a pretty good
> recollection that it runs something like this:
>
> Cost of the 1996 census: $310 million
>
> Revenues from sales: $45 million
>
> Using the AIA, I found that only $15 million of that $45 million came from
> non-governmental sources, i.e. 'new' money. Health Canada, for example,
> might
> pay Stat Can to put a few questions into the long form of the
> Census. Other government institutions purchase data products,
> or customized tabulations.
>
> Don't quote those numbers. I will check on them over the weekend.
>
> Keep in mind the added costs entailed in selling: marketing,
> monitoring security to prevent 'data leakage', etc. If the data
> is free, these costs are not incurred.
>
> I have not compiled this data for the 2001 census, and of course
> data on the 2006 census won't be available for several years.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew Hubbertz
>
>
>
>
> Quoting "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]>:
>
> > Anyone have leads on how we can find out how much stat can earns from
> > selling data?
> >
> > Could we estimate if the cost of selling is more expensive than just
> > giving it away?
> >
> > TpL
> >
> >
> > Olivier Charbonneau wrote:
> > >> due to the $1000 per mini-set price tag.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how much revenue StatCan generates from its access
> > licenses ?
> > >
> > > I'm ready to bet that Access Copyright and Copiebec generate more profit
> > from
> > > the *interest* running on the unallocated reproduction licenses collected
> > from
> > > Canadian Universities, schools and gvmt :)
> > >
> > > Maybe some of that money could go to "liberate" StatCan data and help
> > finance
> > > Opne Access initiatives... see:
> > >
http://www.fedcan.ca/english/advocacy/openaccess/> > >
> > > We should use the interest on these amounts (which sould not have been
> > created
> > > if the market were efficient) to fix the market's market
> > failures(unallocated
> > > repro fees means that we paied for content and the money has not found an
> > > author). Besides, the idea is that if authors have an incentive to give
> > works
> > > away in the first place, we should use money left over to set this
> process
> > up.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts ?
> > > Olivier
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Cory Horner <
[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > >
> > >> There seems to be a little bit of confusion here... 2 different
> > >> discussions regarding the Census happening simultaneously.
> > >>
> > >> 1) Making Census data more freely available
> > >> 2) Census 2006 on-line submission form for Linux users
> > >>
> > >> We're effectively beating a dead horse on the Linux issue... People
> > >> complained, StatsCan initially denied their claims were relevant, but
> > >> soon gave in. Horray! Threads about 1) seem to keep getting hijacked
> > >> by 2)... The petition proposed is related to 1)... not 2) !
> > >>
> > >> The issue actually under discussion is getting the *results* from the
> > >> 2006 Census out to the public -- not the generic "the population of
> > >> nunavut is x", but the raw anonymized data, with which an unknown wealth
> > >> of knowledge exists but sits unused due to the $1000 per mini-set price
> > >> tag.
> > >>
> > >> Glancing at the Statistics Act, it seems the StatsCan policy on cost
> > >> recovery has no basis in the legislation. I'd like to see us aim to get
> > >> a new section (3f) added to the act, which would add a responsibility
> > >> for StatsCan to disseminate all data freely.
> > >>
> > >> Cory.
> > >>
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