Re: Freeing Census Data vs Linux Access

Posted by Ted Hildebrandt on May 18, 2006; 9:54pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Freeing-Census-Data-vs-Linux-Access-tp602p625.html

Just did a quick Google and here is something (although a bit dated). Need to find more current data...
 
http://www.usask.ca/library/gic/v2n4/mcmahon/mcmahon.html
 
http://www.usask.ca/library/gic/18/prophet2.html
 
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/datalib/misc/nilsen.html
 
Ted
 
 

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Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Freeing Census Data vs Linux Access


Anyone have leads on how we can find out how much stat can earns from selling data?

Could we estimate if the cost of selling is more expensive than just giving it away?

TpL


Olivier Charbonneau wrote:

                due to the $1000 per mini-set price tag.
                   

        Does anyone know how much revenue StatCan generates from its access licenses ?
       
        I'm ready to bet that Access Copyright and Copiebec generate more profit from
        the *interest* running on the unallocated reproduction licenses collected from
        Canadian Universities, schools and gvmt :)
       
        Maybe some of that money could go to "liberate" StatCan data and help finance
        Opne Access initiatives... see:
        http://www.fedcan.ca/english/advocacy/openaccess/
       
        We should use the interest on these amounts (which sould not have been created
        if the market were efficient) to fix the market's market failures(unallocated
        repro fees means that we paied for content and the money has not found an
        author). Besides, the idea is that if authors have an incentive to give works
        away in the first place, we should use money left over to set this process up.
       
        Any thoughts ?
        Olivier
       
       
        Quoting Cory Horner <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]> :
       
         

                There seems to be a little bit of confusion here... 2 different
                discussions regarding the Census happening simultaneously.
               
                1) Making Census data more freely available
                2) Census 2006 on-line submission form for Linux users
               
                We're effectively beating a dead horse on the Linux issue... People
                complained, StatsCan initially denied their claims were relevant, but
                soon gave in.  Horray!  Threads about 1) seem to keep getting hijacked
                by 2)...  The petition proposed is related to 1)... not 2) !
               
                The issue actually under discussion is getting the *results* from the
                2006 Census out to the public -- not the generic "the population of
                nunavut is x", but the raw anonymized data, with which an unknown wealth
                of knowledge exists but sits unused due to the $1000 per mini-set price
                tag.
               
                Glancing at the Statistics Act, it seems the StatsCan policy on cost
                recovery has no basis in the legislation.  I'd like to see us aim to get
                a new section (3f) added to the act, which would add a responsibility
                for StatsCan to disseminate all data freely.
               
                Cory.
               
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