http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Re-ParIT-Re-Sparkplug-Fwd-Re-Canada-Census-on-line-GOSLING-Russell-tp536p557.html
That's a great idea Jason... it would be a worthwhile and useful
reference for both technical and non-technical users.. you could have
would be verified) to foster a community effort model... say such and
occur on the ones it doesn't work on and a short description.. something
along those lines... Sorry, I'm getting into solution mode :)
If anyone is interested in pursuing this .. I would be willing to offer
up the hosting space. I have a personal domain through 1&1 hosting
(Linux Business package naturally) and have a few free domains to spare.
grahpical icon, absolutely nothing happened. This was in Firefox 1.5.0.2
on WinXP. I didn't go too in depth with it because I was pressed for
I tried in IE it worked fine. I'm going to confirm if this is a problem
> Sorry for responding to my own post but I just had an idea, what about setting
> up a new domain, something like
http://stop.computeraparthied.com ? We could
> maintain a list of websites that violate the principle of open access based
> on open standards. (Perhaps even
http://explorerdestroyer.com would make the
> list.)
>
> Jason Loughead
>
>
> On Thursday 04 May 2006 8:35 am, Jason Loughead wrote:
>
>>I went to the site using firefox and konqueror and lo and behold I got the
>>same message. Then I called up and asked about the system requirements.
>>I has to be remembered that the help desk people are not highly technical
>>so making real life analogies is the best way to have them understand the
>>issues. The first guy I spoke with was very cordial and I told him that the
>>site checking what operating system I was using was irrelevant if I met all
>>the technical requirements (SSL v.2 128 bit encryption, java, javascript,
>>and cookies). I then told the gentleman "What if our public roads had a
>>requirement that only allowed Ford vehicles to travel on them?" This is
>>about open standards and commercial interests in our system have a vested
>>interest in locking every product but their own out. He asked me tho hold
>>while get discovered the sysadmin department.
>>
>>After a few minutes Julie came on the line (before I started any spiel) and
>>said "Oh, you're one of those! You're trying to protect freedom for users.
>>My boyfriend is running linux at home." Needless to say I had a very
>>responsive audience and took full advantage of it. ;) She told me I could
>>fill out the form with her on the phone and I told her I could change the
>>browser identification to basically lied about my OS and she said that
>>would be like hacking though. I said "No it would be like me calling you
>>right now and if the government had a policy of only talking to white
>>people, saying that I was not black to get service." She thanked me over
>>and over for telling her about this and got my phone number, email, website
>>(I volunteered
>>
http://plug.ca ), and that someone would get back to me.
>>
>>I would encourage everyone to call and politely demand the website not
>>check the Operating System if all other check are passed. :P
>>
>>Jason
>>
>>On Wednesday 03 May 2006 10:55 pm, Richard Houston wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Here is an exchange i am involved with on the CivicAccess mailing list.
>>>I wanted to post it to the plug list for those of you who maybe
>>>interested and are not on the civicaccess mailing list.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>--------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>>>Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Canada Census on line - GOSLING -
>>>Russell From: "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]>
>>>Date: Wed, May 3, 2006 10:11 pm
>>>To:
[hidden email]
>>> "civicaccess discuss" <
[hidden email]>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Russell can you help Richard out? Could you share on your knowledge on
>>>the list regarding this question?
>>>
>>>Russell is with - Getting Open Source Logic INto Governments (GOSLING)
>>>see his bio on the wiki -
http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/RussellMcOrmond>>>
>>>Do other people on the list work on this?
>>>
>>>Richard Houston wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>Not sure if this falls into civicaccess's mandate but I figured I would
>>>>pass it on.
>>>>
>>>>Today I tried to fill out my census info on-line (www.census2006.ca).
>>>>When I tried to get started I got this
>>>>
>>>>"Your browser does not meet the minimum requirements to access this
>>>>site
>>>>
>>>>The current version of browser you are using is not supported by this
>>>
>>>site.
>>>
>>>
>>>>To download a supported version of browser, please refer to: To
>>>>download the required software. If you do not wish to download a new
>>>>browser, you can complete your paper questionnaire and return it by
>>>>mail in the envelope provided."
>>>>
>>>>So I called the help desk. I asked them why I get this messages and
>>>>that I met all the requirements with one small exception. I was on
>>>>Linux. I was told that Linux was not supported and I would have to use
>>>>Windows or Mac to access the site. I asked him why this was and the
>>>>help desk guy told me that as Linux was not all that popular so it was
>>>>not supported and would not likely be supported anytime soon. I took
>>>>some time to try and educate this gentleman about how the Internet
>>>>should not have a specific operating system requirement but I don't
>>>>think he was really listening or cared.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any one I can contact on this in the government or is there a
>>>>anything the group can do to bring open standers argument to Census
>>>>Canada's website? As this is census update time I am sure that there
>>>>are other Linux users out there that are having issues. I am not
>>>>pushing a Linux agenda here but I am pushing for open standards for the
>>>>government of Canada's website.
>>>>
>>>>I know the group is just starting to get going but is this maybe a good
>>>>starting point for some action?
>>>>
>>>>If not any help in pointing me in the direction of someone I can
>>>>contact to complain would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>+------------------------------------+
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>-Richard Houston
>>>>-R.L.H. Consulting
>>>>-E-Mail
[hidden email]
>>>>-WWW
http://www.rlhc.net>>>>-Blog
http://www.rlhc.net/blog/>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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