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Re: The case for context in defining Open Data

Posted by James McKinney-2 on Feb 26, 2013; 8:14pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/The-case-for-context-in-defining-Open-Data-tp5474p5484.html

> Whether data is made available to the public, or not, is absolutely central to open data.

It's central to the question, "Should we release this data?", but it's not central to the question of "Should this data be open data?" Governments often charge for data, in which case it is not open, and in that case they only need to consider the first question, which doesn't mention open data at all. There is clearly a difference between the two questions.


> Unless you think that if governments "release" data on secure hard drives not connected to the internet at all - using an open license - that constitutes open data? This is a logical conclusion based on your argument.

If it's "secure" in the sense that it's encrypted, then it's not open, because not anyone can use it in that case. Otherwise, in some cases, hard disk delivery is an efficient way of distributing large datasets. If anyone can request data on hard drives, then yes, it would be open.


On 2013-02-26, at 2:43 PM, Heather Morrison wrote:

> On 2013-02-26, at 11:17 AM, James McKinney wrote:
>
> The OKF definition covers a set of desirable qualities that we want to see in government-published data, and strikes a balance between what we want and what we are likely to get.
>
> Comment / questions:
>
> 1.  Please define "we".

I'm to the best of my ability expressing the majority opinion within the existing open data community with respect to the definition of "open data". I'm all for having a broader discussion of open data, but starting with a redefinition of basic terms is starting on the wrong foot. We can have more useful discussions than trying to redefine what "open data" means.


> 2. Can you explain precisely how the OKF definition "strikes a balance between what we want and what we are likely to get" in the context of the Weenusk First Nations' concerns?

See Glen's response and mine above.

James
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