Posted by
Grignon, Alain on
May 04, 2006; 12:46pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/writeup-WAS-Re-montreal-meetup-tp523p530.html
My comments on the points listed below (for future reference, try using numbers so its easier to comment appropriately) :)
1. Difficult to find funding for this sort of thing but not impossible
2. I am a member of the Open Source GeoSpatial Foundation which has a small group of europeans in the same/similar boat as those in CivicAccess. Might be a potential ally to help promote access to GeoSpatial information. I've heard of reports written on the issue from the States as well as Canada which could help as well.
3. Before we go off and spend a lot of energy on creating a logo to identify ourselves, I think we would be better served to spend some time getting better organized, develop a charter or vision, specific objectives. Otherwise we risk getting dragged into too many battles that don't really help our cause in the end. Case in point, if Civic Access is mainly about gaining access to geospatial data from government sources, let us not get caught up in other things such as PDF vs. OpenDoc, lets concentrate all our efforts on the one thing we wish to accomplish. Doing so will help give more credibility to what we are doing and will also prevent CivicAccess from being labeled as a bunch of wyners (is that spelled right?? My french is showing :)).
Just my thoughts
Alain Grignon
Landslide GIS Specialist / Spécialiste SIG en glissements de terrains
Geological Survey of Canada / Commission géologique du Canada
601 Booth st. / 601 rue Booth
Ottawa, Ont.
Tel: (613) 947-8773
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That was fun.
People that attended:
Stephane Guidoin, Daniel Haran (Halifax), Dory Kornfield (geography masters + vol from WirelessToronto), Hugh (audio liberation - Librivox and Collectik), Ella (local blogger + flashmob instigator), Andrew someone (project manager + programmer).
Robin, Oliver and Judyth couldn't make it.
We thought it would be a really good idea to support Daniel's lawsuit against his city (Daniel is trying to get information about location of bus stops from Halifax). Before the case went to court we could try to get as many people as possible across Canada to ask for that
info from their own city). Project name: The Bus Stops Here! ;-)
For the record, i'm not sure that steph think's it's a great idea.
;-) We might have to re-think it.
Other points:
-how can we make sure that this type of work (informing citizens) is funded / resourced?
-on the short term : building on small successes instead of tackling large projects -how can we coordinate with similar projects, potential allies -develop the philosophical/political/economic arguments so the rest of us can just copy-paste in our discussions, presentations, etc.
-branding - a civicaccess button/logo? so that bloggers and sites like howdtheyvote could show support. similar to creativecommons logo/button -use the wiki to tell some stories about problems around lack of access. give examples -much aggrement that we all hate pdf's. with a deep and vengeful rage.
-looking forward to getting RSS feeds from howdtheyvote to put on local blogs.
Very fun - and suprisingly productive.
Mike
On 5/2/06, Michael Lenczner <
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> 1) most importantly - je croit que j'ai réussi à mon examen français.
> :-) Seulement parce que c'est un cours a un niveau très bas.
>
> 2) Le meetup va etre mercredi entre 17hrs-19hrs. On va etre au moins
> 6: Daniel, Robin, Hugh, Dory, Stephane (G), Judyth et moi.
>
> L'endroit c'est Laika - 4040 St. Laurent. Coin Duluth.
>
>
http://www.laikamontreal.com/>
> If you need to call for any reason, my cell is 514-708-5112.
>
> mike
>
> On 4/30/06, Michael Lenczner <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Daniel (Haran) est içi à Montréal alors j'ai pensée que nous
> > devrions profiter pour faire un premiére Montréal Meetup. Si vous
> > étes interéssés, svp de me contacter hor-liste et on va trouver un
> > temp on commune pour se reunir. Je sais que tout-le-monde est
> > pressé, alors j'imagine qu'on va seulement étre 4-5 persons, même si
> > on est plusieres à Montreal.
> >
> > The location is definitely going to be laika, though ;-)
> >
> > And wish me luck on my french exam tomorrow (2pm). It seems that
> > I'm going to need it.
> >
> > (J'espère que nous aurons beaucoup de discussion en français sur
> > cette liste. Particulièrement si si le sujet est lié au Québec.)
> >
> > mike
> >
>
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