> Hi Patrick,
>
> Do you think you could make a simple logo with the word CivicAccess
> and
> a stylized map of Canada ? I could try something if you don't have time
> but you could do something better I guess.
>
> Can you send me the source of the splash page also ?
>
> Stef
>
> Patrick Dinnen wrote:
>> I really like Daniel's proposed front page text. I like the clear
>> 'manifesto' and call to action sections.
>>
>> I still feel it would be useful to have a non-wiki front page for the
>> site (not sure if this was your thought or not Daniel?). We're told
>> not to judge books by their covers', but we still do it all the time.
>> I wouldn't want people to be scared off by the wiki-look of the site
>> before they get an idea what it's about.
>>
>> Regarding the maple leaf: I agree, inclusivity is crucial, but I'm
>> really not interested in figuring out how to navigate subtle
>> intra-national politics of symbolism. Just as long as the first page
>> makes it clear that this is a Canadian thing, how it's done is
>> unimportant to me. Whatever people think works best works with me.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> Daniel Haran wrote:
>>
>>> I've put up a mock up of the front page as I would see it.
>>>
http://www.civicaccess.ca/wiki/FrontPageMockup>>>
>>> Eventually, a front page could have just the first paragraph, with
>>> news (+RSS feed) and *ways for people to get involved*. That last
>>> point is probably the most important thing from my perspective. What
>>> do we want this site to accomplish? A lot of decisions flow very
>>> easily once that's clear.
>>>
>>> Oh, and I made up a campaign. It's a devious ploy to get people
>>> thinking about a census data campaign. (I think it's a great idea).
>>>
>>> Disclaimers:
>>> 1- It's ugly. I never pretended to be a designer :)
>>> 2- The information is mostly based on our About page, but I've
>>> changed important parts (e.g. removing the non-commercial objective.
>>> I think data should be free, and I think that was the consensus on
>>> the list so
>>> far)
>>> 3- I didn't translate the page, as I think these should be separate
>>> English/French pages as mentioned earlier. I can translate if/once it
>>> has consensus.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>> On 3/26/06, Michael Lenczner <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm worried that it's going to alienate lots of potential quebec
>>>> participants. Dèja le plupart de la site est en Anglais ansi que
>>>> les titres des pages. Aussi, le mailing list ca se passe presque
>>>> seulment en Anglais. Je ne pense pas que on a besoin de leur
>>>> donner un autre raison à croire que le site n'est pas crèer pour
>>>> eux.
>>>>
>>>> also - instead of COACID can we use Civic Access / Accès Civique?
>>>> Both for the title and in the text? I changed the corresponding
>>>> text in the wiki (on the front page).
>>>>
>>>> In general, we probably should never use COACID or the french
>>>> version, CALIDC. Just CivicAccess.ca or AccesCivique.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/26/06, Patrick Dinnen <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the maple leaf, I'm not a flag waving sort myself either. But
>>>>> the thinking here was that without some indicator it's not at all
>>>>> apparent that the group/site relates to Canadian data
>>>>> specifically. The leaf seemed like a super quick and clear way of
>>>>> communicating that visually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I'm much more bothered by the use of the term 'Splash
>>>>> page' than I am about using the flag ;-) But whatever people
>>>>> think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Lenczner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> looks good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would skip the maple leave, though. seems . . . gratuitous, to
>>>>>> a quebecer at least. and it kinda looks like we might be
>>>>>> "official", gov't funded or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/26/06, Tracey P. Lauriault <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> someday someone will have to explain to be the politics of the
>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>> word!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick Dinnen wrote:
>>>>>>> I agree that an initial page to explain a little about what the
>>>>>>> site/a
>>>>>>> wiki is would be helpful (lets say landing page, rather than
>>>>>>> using the S
>>>>>>> word with it's information-free connotations). Here's a 10 minute
>>>>>>> design
>>>>>>> on how that might look:
>>>>>>>
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=118104671&size=o>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Lenczner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know tracey just added some more sections to the site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on my side:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) i think we should keep a splash page before the wiki. that
>>>>>>> way we can at some point set up another cms if we want to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if we don't keep a splash page then people will link to
>>>>>>>
http://www.civicaccess.ca to go to the wiki. To put a blog in
>>>>>>> before that a year later would mean breaking everyone's links to
>>>>>>> the wiki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so we should prevent
http://www.civicaccess.ca from forwarding
>>>>>>> automatically to the wiki.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and 2) we should keep a splash page because many of the people
>>>>>>> who we
>>>>>>> want to become participants of civicaccess have never seen a wiki
>>>>>>> before and will be kinda shocked with how unprofessional it seems.
>>>>>>> especially because it seems that we're going to have to "go live"
>>>>>>> before we get a nicely organized wiki with lots of content.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steph - can you put a back a temporary splash page? and maybe
>>>>>>> you or patrick or someone else can do a lightly designed splash
>>>>>>> page explain civicaccess in french + english (link to suggested
>>>>>>> text below) with a
>>>>>>> link to the wiki?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
http://www.civicaccess.ca/wiki/Launch/SplashPage (suggested
>>>>>>> text)
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