Re: trying to finish up
Posted by
Stephane Guidoin on
Mar 27, 2006; 12:56am
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/trying-to-finish-up-tp374p396.html
Hi Patrick,
Do you think you could make a simple logo with the word CivicAccess and
a stylized map of Canada ? I could try something if you don't have time
but you could do something better I guess.
Can you send me the source of the splash page also ?
Stef
Patrick Dinnen wrote:
I really like Daniel's proposed front page text. I like the clear
'manifesto' and call to action sections.
I still feel it would be useful to have a non-wiki front page for the
site (not sure if this was your thought or not Daniel?). We're told not
to judge books by their covers', but we still do it all the time. I
wouldn't want people to be scared off by the wiki-look of the site
before they get an idea what it's about.
Regarding the maple leaf: I agree, inclusivity is crucial, but I'm
really not interested in figuring out how to navigate subtle
intra-national politics of symbolism. Just as long as the first page
makes it clear that this is a Canadian thing, how it's done is
unimportant to me. Whatever people think works best works with me.
Patrick
Daniel Haran wrote:
I've put up a mock up of the front page as I would see it.
http://www.civicaccess.ca/wiki/FrontPageMockup
Eventually, a front page could have just the first paragraph, with
news (+RSS feed) and *ways for people to get involved*. That last
point is probably the most important thing from my perspective. What
do we want this site to accomplish? A lot of decisions flow very
easily once that's clear.
Oh, and I made up a campaign. It's a devious ploy to get people
thinking about a census data campaign. (I think it's a great idea).
Disclaimers:
1- It's ugly. I never pretended to be a designer :)
2- The information is mostly based on our About page, but I've changed
important parts (e.g. removing the non-commercial objective. I think
data should be free, and I think that was the consensus on the list so
far)
3- I didn't translate the page, as I think these should be separate
English/French pages as mentioned earlier. I can translate if/once it
has consensus.
Cheers,
Daniel.
On 3/26/06, Michael Lenczner [hidden email] wrote:
I'm worried that it's going to alienate lots of potential quebec
participants. Dèja le plupart de la site est en Anglais ansi que les
titres des pages. Aussi, le mailing list ca se passe presque seulment
en Anglais. Je ne pense pas que on a besoin de leur donner un autre
raison à croire que le site n'est pas crèer pour eux.
also - instead of COACID can we use Civic Access / Accès Civique?
Both for the title and in the text? I changed the corresponding text
in the wiki (on the front page).
In general, we probably should never use COACID or the french version,
CALIDC. Just CivicAccess.ca or AccesCivique.ca
On 3/26/06, Patrick Dinnen [hidden email] wrote:
On the maple leaf, I'm not a flag waving sort myself either. But the
thinking here was that without some indicator it's not at all apparent
that the group/site relates to Canadian data specifically. The leaf
seemed like a super quick and clear way of communicating that visually.
Personally I'm much more bothered by the use of the term 'Splash page'
than I am about using the flag ;-) But whatever people think.
Patrick
Michael Lenczner wrote:
looks good.
I would skip the maple leave, though. seems . . . gratuitous, to a
quebecer at least. and it kinda looks like we might be "official",
gov't funded or something.
On 3/26/06, Tracey P. Lauriault [hidden email] wrote:
:-)
someday someone will have to explain to be the politics of the s word!
Patrick Dinnen wrote:
I agree that an initial page to explain a little about what the site/a
wiki is would be helpful (lets say landing page, rather than using the S
word with it's information-free connotations). Here's a 10 minute design
on how that might look:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=118104671&size=o
Thoughts?
Patrick
Michael Lenczner wrote:
I know tracey just added some more sections to the site.
on my side:
1) i think we should keep a splash page before the wiki. that way we
can at some point set up another cms if we want to.
if we don't keep a splash page then people will link to
http://www.civicaccess.ca to go to the wiki. To put a blog in before
that a year later would mean breaking everyone's links to the wiki.
so we should prevent http://www.civicaccess.ca from forwarding
automatically to the wiki.
and 2) we should keep a splash page because many of the people who we
want to become participants of civicaccess have never seen a wiki
before and will be kinda shocked with how unprofessional it seems.
especially because it seems that we're going to have to "go live"
before we get a nicely organized wiki with lots of content.
Steph - can you put a back a temporary splash page? and maybe you or
patrick or someone else can do a lightly designed splash page explain
civicaccess in french + english (link to suggested text below) with a
link to the wiki?
http://www.civicaccess.ca/wiki/Launch/SplashPage (suggested
text)
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