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Re: activities, resources, long pages,

Posted by Tracey P. Lauriault-2 on Nov 26, 2005; 8:20pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/activities-resources-long-pages-tp35p39.html

Hmm! Not my intention! Geez! Did not know I was one of -you know- one of
those.....

Is there a way to take away the officiousness & directedness but leave
in some hints in how to play! Particularly for people who do not know
how these things work!  Like myself!
Not attached to the word document.
I guess there is a spectrum of people from different communities who
might have different expectations and we need to find that collective
sweet spot.



Michael Lenczner wrote:

>On 11/26/05, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>Bonjour gang!
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>>Bon faut jouer dehors dans la neige!
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>>Mais avant d'y aller, j'ai téléchargé (is that the word for
>>upload/post?) du nouveau matériel sur le wiki.
>>J'ai déveloper une section s'appelant activités
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>I have mixed feelings about that page.  I thought about it for 20
>minutes and I don't think it's that I disagree with the content
>(although I don't think "documenting" is a good way to get people
>involved - but I may be wrong).
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>What i don't like is the tone.  It has this feel of "Citizens for open
>access" actually *being* something.  Some kind of organization.
>Something larger than the sum of it's parts.  It has a feeling of
>pretension - not arrogance - but of intimating that we are not just 4
>random people from different places across canada.
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>I'm wary of that.  I think that is our most valuable attribute, our
>strongest weapon. We're just 4 regular people from different areas of
>canada and different professions and we see this issue as important to
>us.  Anything that obfuscates that - that lessens the impact of that
>point must be done with full awareness.  This is why I want the wiki
>to stay a little thin, and a little rough.  If it is too polished, we
>are implicityly saying that we only have permission to attempt this
>kind of initiative if we are good enough - smart enough, have enough
>expertise, enough education.  That's exactly the point of view that
>we're trying to tear down.  You don't need to be someone in a three
>piece suit to have an interest in or an ability to look at this
>data/information.  you can be anyone.  And I think the wiki and the
>mailing list and our language should reflect that.  That means
>resisting the impulse to overly coordinate, make too many backup
>references / footnotes to arguements, use professional language, etc.
>We have to dumb things down - not because the four of us aren't smart
>enough to handle them - but because these things (jargon - but also
>polish, "professionalism", and even perfection are walls to keep
>regular people out.
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>And the other thing I don't like about the activities page is that it
>implies a direction to COACD.  To me this is not a direction.  this is
>a meeting place.  There is a huge difference between a bandwagon going
>somewhere and a crossroads where people can find each other, share
>some stories, and shoot the shit (all around a special interest, mind
>you).
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>>, je suggère que l'on
>>change navigation à resources,
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>i kept navigation but i created another page called Resources and I
>moved the provinces + cities over to there.
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>>et je cherche le camel case pour
>>Participants!
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>to link to participants use ["Participants"]
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>Thats what you do when something isn't CamelCase but it's on the top level.
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>>Stéphane, je m'excuse que je pense plus en anglais qu'en francais quand
>>j'écris!  Mauvaise habitude pour le moment! De même, une fois que nous
>>serions d'accord du matériel téléchargé dans le wiki ce serait le fun
>>qu'on travaille ensemble pour traduire.  Je pense que les pages seront
>>très longues, donc peut-etre nous devrions créer un tableau pour diviser
>>les pages en deux sur la verticale? Qu'en pensez-vous?
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>>ciao les amis! il faut maintenant aller complétez le niveau de l'arsenal
>>de mes boulles de neige!
>>Tracey
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>mike
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