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Re: activities, resources, long pages,

Posted by Michael Lenczner on Nov 26, 2005; 5:38pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/activities-resources-long-pages-tp35p37.html

On 11/26/05, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Bonjour gang!
>
> Bon faut jouer dehors dans la neige!
>
> Mais avant d'y aller, j'ai téléchargé (is that the word for
> upload/post?) du nouveau matériel sur le wiki.
> J'ai déveloper une section s'appelant activités

I have mixed feelings about that page.  I thought about it for 20
minutes and I don't think it's that I disagree with the content
(although I don't think "documenting" is a good way to get people
involved - but I may be wrong).

What i don't like is the tone.  It has this feel of "Citizens for open
access" actually *being* something.  Some kind of organization.
Something larger than the sum of it's parts.  It has a feeling of
pretension - not arrogance - but of intimating that we are not just 4
random people from different places across canada.

I'm wary of that.  I think that is our most valuable attribute, our
strongest weapon. We're just 4 regular people from different areas of
canada and different professions and we see this issue as important to
us.  Anything that obfuscates that - that lessens the impact of that
point must be done with full awareness.  This is why I want the wiki
to stay a little thin, and a little rough.  If it is too polished, we
are implicityly saying that we only have permission to attempt this
kind of initiative if we are good enough - smart enough, have enough
expertise, enough education.  That's exactly the point of view that
we're trying to tear down.  You don't need to be someone in a three
piece suit to have an interest in or an ability to look at this
data/information.  you can be anyone.  And I think the wiki and the
mailing list and our language should reflect that.  That means
resisting the impulse to overly coordinate, make too many backup
references / footnotes to arguements, use professional language, etc.
We have to dumb things down - not because the four of us aren't smart
enough to handle them - but because these things (jargon - but also
polish, "professionalism", and even perfection are walls to keep
regular people out.

And the other thing I don't like about the activities page is that it
implies a direction to COACD.  To me this is not a direction.  this is
a meeting place.  There is a huge difference between a bandwagon going
somewhere and a crossroads where people can find each other, share
some stories, and shoot the shit (all around a special interest, mind
you).

>, je suggère que l'on
> change navigation à resources,

i kept navigation but i created another page called Resources and I
moved the provinces + cities over to there.

> et je cherche le camel case pour
> Participants!

to link to participants use ["Participants"]

Thats what you do when something isn't CamelCase but it's on the top level.

>
> Stéphane, je m'excuse que je pense plus en anglais qu'en francais quand
> j'écris!  Mauvaise habitude pour le moment! De même, une fois que nous
> serions d'accord du matériel téléchargé dans le wiki ce serait le fun
> qu'on travaille ensemble pour traduire.  Je pense que les pages seront
> très longues, donc peut-etre nous devrions créer un tableau pour diviser
> les pages en deux sur la verticale? Qu'en pensez-vous?
>
> ciao les amis! il faut maintenant aller complétez le niveau de l'arsenal
> de mes boulles de neige!
> Tracey
>
>

mike

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