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Re: Toronto Sun: Toronto’s data open but almost useless

Posted by Nik G on Jul 07, 2011; 7:07pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Toronto-Sun-Toronto-s-data-open-but-almost-useless-tp3414p3425.html

Wouldn't it be great to agree not to define another new term? 'Data' and
'Information' are good enough. Public = Publically Available is hopefully
obvious too :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Newton
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:53 PM
To: civicaccess discuss
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss]Toronto Sun: Toronto’s data open but
almost useless

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:30 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> I defined my use of public data as "open data that is
> citizen-ready", i.e. usable by all stakeholders.

1 - It is not clear to me what "citizen-ready" means
2 - "usable by all stakeholders" makes it even less clear to me

Could you explain what you mean by "citizen-ready"? The way you are
using it suggests it should be obvious to me. :-)
I think getting consensus (if possible) on the definition would be a
useful thing.

Thanks,
Glen


On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:30 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Nik G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> While I agree with you that we're disagreeing on terms, it's also
>> important
>> to point out that it's not really "Public vs Open" data discussion. You
>> probably read Melanie Chernoff's article on the differences
>> (http://opensource.com/government/10/12/what-%E2%80%9Copen-data%E2%80%9D-means-%E2%80%93-and-what-it-doesn%E2%80%99t),
>
> Just read the article. I am not using "public data" to mean "publicly
> available data". I defined my use of public data as "open data that is
> citizen-ready", i.e. usable by all stakeholders. There is no commonly
> agreed-upon meaning for "public data", and perhaps there is a better
> term for the meaning that I intend. In any case, I think you would
> agree that this is in fact a "public vs open" discussion, in my usage.
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