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Re: Toronto Sun: Toronto’s data open but almost useless

Posted by Karl Dubost on Jul 07, 2011; 1:56pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Toronto-Sun-Toronto-s-data-open-but-almost-useless-tp3414p3416.html


Le 7 juil. 2011 à 09:22, Tracey P. Lauriault a écrit :
> However, I am not sure which format the article's author wants the data in,
> xls is probably the lowest common denominator and many of the City's data
> are in those formats.

But not always an accessible format. And not an open format (owned by MS).
There is an act of balance to maintain in these choices and indeed in the first steps, there is can the data be reused. Frank is making a good point about it, specifically when you are advocating for open data.

Le 7 juil. 2011 à 09:40, Frank Warmerdam a écrit :
> In my opinion it is best to release data in close
> to the working format within the organization

It is tied to understand first how the organization is working. The workflow of information, the tools used, the people into this workflow to see where you can put hooks that will make the life of people easier. Anything that disturbs the established workflow and/or requires more work from people will fail. Abruptly.


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> How does a
> city decide on formats?  Should they be releasing data in the way that they
> use them in the formats used as part of a city's business processes or
> should they re-format the data for the public?

It depends… :)

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