http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/link-to-MP-from-ISF-pages-tp211p245.html
mike you are prob right to restrict this project to civic data. with so
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we should try to stick to civic
> information on this list. I'm concerned that it will be far too easy
> to spread into discussing any of the many things we probably share in
> common in terms of interest in participatory culture, indymedia,
> copyright, digital rights managment, open access education +
> publication, gis, open source, collaborative projects, etc. Not that
> we won't discuss those things - but we should restrict ourselves to
> talking about them only in their relation to sharing civic information
> in Canada.
>
> Feel free to let me know if I'm off-base on this.
>
> The reason I'm concerned is that I know a lot of the people on this
> list are *very* busy, and I want them to be able to spend time here
> for a very specific reason and not have to discuss or wade through
> discussions which they might consider to be offtopic (although
> commendable).
>
> Just my 0.02
>
> mike
>
> On 2/5/06, Tracey P. Lauriault <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>Hugh McGuire wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi-
>>>I don't know where this falls into this discussion & if it's relevant.
>>>but my main interest of late has been audio & what's going to happen on
>>>the net. one of my big hopes is that uni profs start putting their
>>>lectures online. there's the question of IP though, who owns those
>>>lectures: the university? the prof? the tax-payers who finance universities?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>the student who paid the tuition?
>>
>>
>>>I vote #3, but there will be a big battle over this in coming years. So
>>>one thing I'd like to see is a movement among uni profs to give their
>>>content away for free via mp3 to anyone who wants it; prob with some
>>>varriation of a Creative Commons license. and a movement of students to
>>>help them do it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>i like it! Did i not see that somewhere? ITV is interesting, profs get a
>>little grupy though cuz it puts them out of work. Got the tape, who
>>needs the prof. Then again it could free the prof up to do other things
>>like research! But we ain't there yet! What of a lecture podcast (i did
>>a fast dig -
http://www.brocku.ca/ctl/podcast/archives/7,
>>
http://www.ubc.ca/podcasts/index.php,
>>
http://www.ottergroup.com/blog/Podcasting/_archives/2005/10/20/1312863.html...sure>>there is more?
>>
>>
>>>Right now they give their content away to scholarly journals, who charge
>>>outrageous subscription fess, and keep content closed off: so no one
>>>gets to read the content. all that -- written & audio-should be
>>>available to me for free, as a canadian who finances universities with
>>>my taxes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yup! the problem for the prof, is the entry ticket, the current currency
>>for teaching, tenure and research money is the single authored peer
>>reviewed journal article, the more you get the better in the current
>>system, if you speak to a large audience like a conference the less
>>valued is the knowledge in the system yet the more broadly the ideas are
>>disseminated!go figure - the more who know the less it is worth? so a
>>major cultural shift in the academic merit system is required. Peer
>>review audio would be fun and it would be great to have the reviewers
>>send audio of their reviews!
>>
>>
>>>So I throw this idea out, just for some thoughts & comments...
>>>
>>>Hugh.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I like it.
>>
>>
>>>Russell McOrmond wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Daniel Haran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's kind of absurd to me that our electoral data is half-free. The
>>>>>idea that if I put all of this data on my website it's OK, but if I
>>>>>send you an entire copy of the data, and charge you for it, I'm
>>>>>somehow in need of a license. As if a customer of mine coudln't
>>>>>simply download their own data set. Oh well, for now we can play with
>>>>>free maps :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is what is expected, and is one huge leap forward. It is
>>>>effectively an Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 Canada license, which would
>>>>be great for Elections Canada to document formally with a license rather
>>>>than via a "verbal"-like agreement.
>>>>
>>>>
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ca/>>>>
>>>> Releasing the information into the public domain, where commercial
>>>>uses can be made of it without interacting with Elections Canada, would
>>>>surprise me. It is an ideal goal (It is what the US does), but it is a
>>>>big change from the draconian license used for the PCFRF (Postal Code to
>>>>Federal Riding) data file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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