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Re: university audio & writing

Posted by Michael Lenczner on Feb 05, 2006; 11:14pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/link-to-MP-from-ISF-pages-tp211p244.html

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think we should try to stick to civic
information on this list.  I'm concerned that it will be far too easy
to spread into discussing any of the many things we probably share in
common in terms of interest in participatory culture, indymedia,
copyright, digital rights managment, open access education +
publication, gis, open source, collaborative projects, etc.  Not that
we won't discuss those things - but we should restrict ourselves to
talking about them only in their relation to sharing civic information
in Canada.

Feel free to let me know if I'm off-base on this.

The reason I'm concerned is that I know a lot of the people on this
list are *very* busy, and I want them to be able to spend time here
for a very specific reason and not have to discuss or wade through
discussions which they might consider to be offtopic (although
commendable).

Just my 0.02

mike

On 2/5/06, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hugh McGuire wrote:
>
> >Hi-
> >I don't know where this falls into this discussion & if it's relevant.
> >but my main interest of late has been audio & what's going to happen on
> >the net. one of my big hopes is that uni profs start putting their
> >lectures online. there's the question of IP though, who owns those
> >lectures: the university? the prof? the tax-payers who finance universities?
> >
> >
> the student who paid the tuition?
>
> >I vote #3, but there will be a big battle over this in coming years. So
> >one thing I'd like to see is a movement among uni profs to give their
> >content away for free via mp3 to anyone who wants it; prob with some
> >varriation of a Creative Commons license. and a movement of students to
> >help them do it.
> >
> >
> i like it! Did i not see that somewhere? ITV is interesting, profs get a
> little grupy though cuz it puts them out of work.  Got the tape, who
> needs the prof.  Then again it could free the prof up to do other things
> like research! But we ain't there yet!  What of a lecture podcast (i did
> a fast dig - http://www.brocku.ca/ctl/podcast/archives/7,
> http://www.ubc.ca/podcasts/index.php,
> http://www.ottergroup.com/blog/Podcasting/_archives/2005/10/20/1312863.html...sure
> there is more?
>
> >Right now they give their content away to scholarly journals, who charge
> >outrageous subscription fess, and keep content closed off: so no one
> >gets to read the content. all that -- written & audio-should be
> >available to me for free, as a canadian who finances universities with
> >my taxes.
> >
> >
> Yup! the problem for the prof, is the entry ticket, the current currency
> for teaching, tenure and research money is the single authored peer
> reviewed journal article,  the more you get the better in the current
> system, if you speak to a large audience like a conference the less
> valued is the knowledge in the system yet the more broadly the ideas are
> disseminated!go figure - the more who know the less it is worth? so a
> major cultural shift in the academic merit system is required.  Peer
> review audio would be fun and it would be great to have the reviewers
> send audio of their reviews!
>
> >So I throw this idea out, just for some thoughts & comments...
> >
> >Hugh.
> >
> >
> I like it.
>
> >
> >Russell McOrmond wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Daniel Haran wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>It's kind of absurd to me that our electoral data is half-free. The
> >>>idea that if I put all of this data on my website it's OK, but if I
> >>>send you an entire copy of the data, and charge you for it, I'm
> >>>somehow in need of a license. As if a customer of mine coudln't
> >>>simply download their own data set. Oh well, for now we can play with
> >>>free maps :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>   This is what is expected, and is one huge leap forward.  It is
> >>effectively an Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 Canada license, which would
> >>be great for Elections Canada to document formally with a license rather
> >>than via a "verbal"-like agreement.
> >>
> >>http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ca/
> >>
> >>   Releasing the information into the public domain, where commercial
> >>uses can be made of it without interacting with Elections Canada, would
> >>surprise me.  It is an ideal goal (It is what the US does), but it is a
> >>big change from the draconian license used for the PCFRF (Postal Code to
> >>Federal Riding) data file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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