http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Re-About-this-wiki-tp22p23.html
> change it if they want. What do you think?
Ok, it' correct. I just thought that all the mailing lists were sending the mail
to everybody in the list, even the sender of the message. But I think I prefer
> Hi Stephane
> I got your message to the list no problem and it is sitting in the
> archives. You didn't receive the message because the way mailman is
> configured right now you don't get a copy of the messages you send. I
> set it up like that because it's my preference, but maybe I should
> change it so the default is that you do get the message and people can
> change it if they want. What do you think?
>
> OK, got work I should be on my way to already.
>
> Patrick
>
> Stephane Guidoin wrote:
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> > I tried to send a message using the mailing list and nothing happened (I
> > didn't received my mail and it didn't bounce). Did you received
> > something. If not, could you have a look to see if mailman is ok
> >
> > Steph
> >
> > Patrick Dinnen wrote:
> >
> >> That looks like a great summary of what we're about Tracy. Here's my
> >> crack at something on creativity:
> >>
> >> * Easy access to accurate, timely and appropriately formatted civic
> >> data means that citizens can reimagine [is that a word even?] how they
> >> understand and analyse the workings of the democracy they live in.
> >>
> >> Ouch, that seems to be twice as long as any of the points you made
> >> Tracey and I'm still not sure it makes the point. Working as a civil
> >> servant during the day seems to have taken its toll on my powers of
> >> expression :-(
> >>
> >> What I'm trying to get at here is that, as an example, the City of
> >> Toronto only publishes the results of Council meetings as one huge
> >> impenetrable PDF and that several weeks after the fact. So doing
> >> anything interesting with the data (even 20th century interesting,
> >> never mind 21st) gets pretty difficult.
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> >>
> >>> A start! Stéphane, Patrick and CFYAW i put this up on the wiki
> >>> yesterday, can you spice this up at all! Certainly creativity should
> >>> be in there somewhere to! Oh the French part...
> >>> ************************
> >>>
> >>> This wiki aims to build a culture of finding, accessing and sharing
> >>> free civic data because:
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> A democracy is founded on the principle of participation in the
> >>> decision-making process.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Good decisions are based on the analysis of reliable and accurate
> >>> civic data.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Currently access to civic data are impeded by cost recovery
> >>> policies, IP, security and confidentiality.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Data holders are often overly cautious for the latter two.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Citizens have already paid for their civic data through taxation
> >>> and should have the right to easily access them
> >>>
> >>> o
> >>>
> >>> at no cost for non-commercial purposes.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Informed citizens and civil society groups need to be equal,
> >>> informed and active participants in their societies.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> This is what a democracy looks like!
> >>>
> >>> Ce wiki a comme but de déveloper une culture de citoyen/nes qui
> >>> découvreront, accèderont et partagerons des données civiques gratuite
> >>> parce que:
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Une démocracie est basé sur le principe de participation dans les
> >>> decisions politiques.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> L'analyze des données civiques est fondamentalement nécéssaire
> >>> pour la formulation de bonnes décisions.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Couramment, l'accès au données civiques est entravé par les
> >>> politiques economiques, la propriétée intelectuelle,
> >>>
> >>> o
> >>>
> >>> la sécurité et la confidentialité.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Les gardeurs des données sont souvent trops sensibles au deux
> >>> derniers points.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Les citoyens on déjà payer pour les données civiques avec leurs
> >>> taxes donc ils/elles devraient y avoir le droit de
> >>>
> >>> o
> >>>
> >>> les accéder facilement et sans frais pour des buts non
> >>> lucratifs.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Une citoyenneté et un secteur civique qui sont bien informé seront
> >>> egalement des participants actifs/ves.
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> Ceci est ce que est une démocracie.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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