> hmm! We were provided with advice that we may be able to
> get the postal
> code file from elections canada through an ATIP request.
> we were also
> provided with an offer of assistance by an expert in this
> area to review our
> request and provided with tips on how to follow-up. I will
> probably start
> to work on such a request, any one wanna help? Should we
> make it a
> CivicAccess.ca request or an individual citizens's
> request?
>
> Also, Michael Geist is a member of CivicAccess and is
> considered as one of
> the founders. (see
http://civicaccess.ca/wiki/founders)
> CIPPIC has also
> provided legal advice to community wireless groups,
> particularly ogWiFi and
> assisted with the drafting of a hotspot user agreement as
> well as
> incorporation documents that have been shared with groups
> in canada. I
> think it might be interesting for
civicaccess.ca to come up
> with a few
> strategic questions we would like a legal opinion on and
> see if they can
> help us out with a response and a course of action. CIPPIC
> is really busy
> but sometimes they have law students and interns looking
> for projects.
>
> We do not live in cool montreal :( but we can do some of
> the boring
> institutional work that can prove useful to
civicaccess.ca.
>
> Ciao
> t
>
> On Tum!e, Oct 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jennifer Bell
> <
[hidden email]>wrote:
>
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's not 100% black and white.
> Having seen the paper (dated
> > April, 2005, wow!), the summary is basically:
> 'The legal status is unclear,
> > but you're probably OK.' The argument partly
> hinges on whether the scraped
> > data set is 'original', which is admitted to
> be a subjective call.
> >
> > However, here is a very, very intriguing quote,
> relevent to most here:
> >
> > 'Your activities appear to fall within a
> recognized "gap" in Canadian
> > copyright law with respect to unoriginal compilations
> of data. Specialized
> > database legislation in other jurisdictions might
> capture this sort of
> > activity. In Canada, provided no other tortuous
> conduct (such as a trespass
> > to chattels) accompanies your activities, such a
> taking is lawful.'
> >
> > I would post the letter, but it's a private
> correspondance between the
> > legal clinic and the sender, and I don't yet have
> permission.
> >
> > The legal clinic was organized by the CIPPIC group at
> the Ottawa U law
> > faculty, which seems like an excellent resource for
> you folks who are
> > wondering about whether copies of particular
> scientific data sets are legal
> > or not.
> >
> > Jennifer
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/10/08, Daniel Haran
> <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Daniel Haran <
[hidden email]>
> > > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] opinion paper:
> scraped postalcode -->
> > edid's legal
> > > To:
[hidden email], "civicaccess
> discuss" <
> >
[hidden email]>
> > > Received: Friday, October 10, 2008, 3:07 PM
> > > Any chance they can merge back into this file? :)
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://github.com/danielharan/canadian-postal-code-to-electoral-districts/tree/master
> > >
> > > Extracting that data from downloaded pages took
> far longer
> > > than
> > > expected, and there is data missing. Sanity
> checks and
> > > contributions
> > > would be welcome.
> > >
> > > d.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Jennifer Bell
> > > <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've just gotten an email from someone
> with a
> > > scraped (incomplete) postal code -->
> edid's data set.
> > > He's had an opinion paper written by an
> Ottawa U legal
> > > clinic that his data set is free of any
> legal/copyright
> > > issues. The data set is currently being used by
> a couple of
> > > non-profits.
> > > >
> > > > Will post more info when I get it.
> Hopefully, the
> > > person who told me this will join the list
> himself.
> > > >
> > > > Jennifer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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