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Re: Guerilla Open Access

Posted by Daniel Haran on Sep 23, 2008; 8:07pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Show-your-support-for-open-gov-data-at-ibelieveinopen-ca-tp1231p1256.html

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Heather Morrison <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 23-Sep-08, at 11:57 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>
>> I believe folks are helping our Canadian democratic system be, well,
>> democratic, by making it easier for citizens to find their MPs.
>>
>> The NIH public access mandate, if i am not mistaken, is primarily about
>> journal articles and not necessarily the data that are used to create them
>> unless they are included as a PDF appendix in the article.  OA movements in
>> general, if i am not mistaken, are about published material and i think
>> there is a different batch of folks working on public data which include
>> socio-demographic, digital maps, framework data and a host of scientific
>> data from both the natural and social sciences.  Both are complimentary
>> movements and at some point it might be good to pool resources.
>
> Agreed on pooling resources - I am an OA advocate, totally supporting open
> data.  If open data goes ahead with public infringement, this is fine with
> me, but  - with very best wishes for open data - I'll have to take the
> ibelieveincanada.ca button off my blog.
>
> The folks who are fighting for fair copyright in Canada could have the same
> potential synergies, and the same issues here.
>
> chrs, h

Hold on - do you mean ibelieveinopen.ca?

They have not endorsed what I am doing. I offered to help them with
software, but nothing has happened so far except a meeting. Even if I
end up contributing code, it does not imply an endorsement on their
part of my tactics.

ibelieveinopen is lobbying, I'm practicing civil disobedience. I
believe both approaches are worthwhile and can be complementary, if
everyone plays their role properly.

civicaccess is a meeting ground. We don't all have to agree our
support each other. I do hope however that we'll avoid hampering each
other's efforts.

To those unfamiliar with civil disobedience and how our roles can be
complementary, I highly recommend the book "Doing Democracy":
http://tinyurl.com/3hasd2

Cheers,

d.