Re: Guerilla Open Access

Posted by Tracey P. Lauriault on Sep 23, 2008; 6:57pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/Show-your-support-for-open-gov-data-at-ibelieveinopen-ca-tp1231p1252.html

I believe folks are helping our Canadian democratic system be, well, democratic, by making it easier for citizens to find their MPs. 

The NIH public access mandate, if i am not mistaken, is primarily about journal articles and not necessarily the data that are used to create them unless they are included as a PDF appendix in the article.  OA movements in general, if i am not mistaken, are about published material and i think there is a different batch of folks working on public data which include socio-demographic, digital maps, framework data and a host of scientific data from both the natural and social sciences.  Both are complimentary movements and at some point it might be good to pool resources.

Also, I think it is ok to focus on the Canadian elections and not necessarily the US opposition!

cheers
t

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Heather Morrison <[hidden email]> wrote:

As an illustration of why the legislation is needed.  A bad and totally inappropriate example, but might convince a busy legislator who doesn't really have time to read and think about the details of every piece of legislation that comes their way.

One way to explain:  the argument that the "N" in NIH (US National Institutes of Health) should not stand for "Napster" is being used to fight the NIH Public Access Mandate.  Ridiculous, of course, but anyone who has followed OA advocacy over the years knows that logic is not a requirement of the anti-OA lobby for its arguments.

Any legislator who understands copyright, does a thorough reading and is making decisions based on what makes sense (as opposed to who to contibuting to the campaign expenses), is not supporting this bill, anyway...

best,

h

On 23-Sep-08, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Haran wrote:

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Heather Morrison <[hidden email]> wrote:

Re:  scraping and infringing and telling everyone - please note that OA
advocates in the U.S. are battling a concerted effort by the anti-OA
publishing lobby to basically change U.S. copyright law to prevent public
access mandates to federally funded research.  The Conyers bill is nuts, but
could easily get slipped into another bill and passed.

This is not a great time to be public about infringing; this would help the
opposition.

Not that I'm against this approach altogether, just not the best timing.

best,

Heather Morrison

How would this help the opposition?

d.
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