Posted by
Regie Alam on
Aug 14, 2008; 12:42pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/copyright-issues-with-extracting-data-from-city-report-tp1157p1170.html
Hello,
It may also be important to include the items
listed by Russell in his posting (I quote a part of
his posting below):
"What they often want is waiver from liability for
any republication or derivative use, and clear
attribution (IE: who the author of the original is,
and how any republications or derivatives can't claim
they are the official version). All these things
could be accomplished with a liberal copyright
licenses, while using trademark to deal with
attribution/official-versions, but nobody ever bothers
to get a policy set on this."
Thanks,
Regie
--- Heather Morrison <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> hi everyone ~
>
> If it is timely to push for policies to promote OA
> of public data,
> the library community may be able to help, e.g.
> writing letters of
> support for an OA policy. I work with the Canadian
> Library
> Association in this area, and would be happy to
> draft a letter of
> support.
>
> Public data policies need to address privacy
> concerns as well as open
> access; it is a good idea to address this from the
> outset, otherwise
> policy development could be slowed down.
>
> Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of the
> author alone, and
> does not represent the opinion or policy of BC
> Electronic Library
> Network or Simon Fraser University Library.
>
> Heather Morrison, MLIS
> The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
>
http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com>
> On 13-Aug-08, at 5:04 AM, Regie Alam wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello Tracey,
> >
> > Thanks for looking into this. Yes, I'll
> definitely
> > pursue this. I have a feeling that the city do not
> > have official policies with things like this. It
> might
> > be ripe for pushing for policies that promote open
> > access of city data to the public.
> >
> > Regie
> >
> >
> > --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I went and looked at the *T*HE DISSEMINATION OF
> >> GOVERNMENT *GEOGRAPHIC DATA
> >> IN CANADA** GUIDE TO BEST PRACTICES -
> >>
> >
>
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/>
> > html/summary_e.html
> >>
> >> *I perused the pdf document -
> >>
> >
>
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/>
> > Guide_to_Best_Practices_v12_finale_e.pdf
> >> *
> >>
> >> Read Chapter 3 & 4, particularly sections -
> >> 4.1.2 (i) Contour of Copyright Protection (ii)
> >> Derived Works
> >> 4.1.3 Raw Data is not Protected under the
> Copyright
> >> Act
> >> 4.1.4 Data Sets as Protected Compilations under
> the
> >> Copyright Act
> >> Case Study Compilation
> >>
> >> *There is some ambiguity. It is interesting to
> note
> >> that the government is
> >> producing data for the best interest of the
> >> government and for government
> >> use but not necessarily for the public it
> >> represents. I believe we have a
> >> public access / use issue, when it comes to
> >> government and the copyright act
> >> i believe we need to push for more progressive
> >> licensing. This document
> >> also contains references to the federal TBS
> >> policies, Communications
> >> Policies etc. in *section 3* that are worth
> reading.
> >> You will note that I
> >> sent a question regarding provincial and
> territorial
> >> regulations etc.
> >> Finally, this is an interesting case and Regie, I
> >> hope you will continue to
> >> pursue it. See if the City has that vector file
> and
> >> see if they will share
> >> it and if then lets see where to go next.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Tracey
> >>
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >> *On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tracey P.
> >> Lauriault <
[hidden email]>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Reggie!
> >>>
> >>> I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who
> knows
> >> these things and hope
> >>> they will respond. I feel the same way about
> the
> >> last two questions as
> >>> well, and I am also not sure the official's
> >> response is correct either. She
> >>> sent you the copyright act but did she send you
> >> anything about licenses?
> >>>
> >>> hmmm.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> t
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam
> >> <
[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Tracey,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find my answers embedded below.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Regie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Regie;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is a really interesting question. I am
> >> not an
> >>>>> expert in this area
> >>>>> however here are some of questions worth
> >>>>> answering/considering. There are a
> >>>>> few experts who have some knowledge in this
> >> area on
> >>>>> the list:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. What exactly was the report authors
> >> response?
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't contacted the author yet. I did
> contact
> >> the
> >>>> city staff that was listed as the contact
> person
> >> for
> >>>> the project
> >>>> (
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/environment/city_hall/getgreen/
>
> > greenspace/evaluation_study_en.html
> >>>> ).
> >>>>
> >>>> Her response was that the city won't be able to
> >>>> support the use of city information in another
> >> form on
> >>>> the internet.
> >>>>
> >>>>> 2. This is a value added exercise, it is for
> >> non
> >>>>> commercial
> >>>>> purposes,correct?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, it is for non-commercial use.
> >>>>
> >>>>> 3. you are using the original dataset simply
> >> for
> >>>>> reference purposes correct?
> >>>>
> >>>> The boundaries of the Urban Natural Areas are
> in
> >> .pdf
> >>>> format which are contained in a report. I am
> >>>> digitizing the boundaries based on these .pdf
> >> files.
> >>>> So, yes the maps are for reference purposes but
> >> I'm
> >>>> also digitizing the actual boundaries (my
> >> digitized
> >>>> boundaries would be similar to their
> boundaries).
>
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