Re: copyright issues with extracting data from city report
Posted by
Tracey P. Lauriault on
Aug 13, 2008; 4:12pm
URL: http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/copyright-issues-with-extracting-data-from-city-report-tp1157p1167.html
That is awesome Heather!
Regie are you in Ottawa? if so did you want to meet up and discuss some possible ideas and next steps?
Anyone else on the list in Ottawa interested in this?
Cheers
t
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Heather Morrison
<[hidden email]> wrote:
hi everyone ~
If it is timely to push for policies to promote OA of public data, the library community may be able to help, e.g. writing letters of support for an OA policy. I work with the Canadian Library Association in this area, and would be happy to draft a letter of support.
Public data policies need to address privacy concerns as well as open access; it is a good idea to address this from the outset, otherwise policy development could be slowed down.
Any opinion expressed in this e-mail is that of the author alone, and does not represent the opinion or policy of BC Electronic Library Network or Simon Fraser University Library.
Heather Morrison, MLIS
The Imaginary Journal of Poetic Economics
http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.com
On 13-Aug-08, at 5:04 AM, Regie Alam wrote:
Hello Tracey,
Thanks for looking into this. Yes, I'll definitely
pursue this. I have a feeling that the city do not
have official policies with things like this. It might
be ripe for pushing for policies that promote open
access of city data to the public.
Regie
--- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <[hidden email]> wrote:
I went and looked at the *T*HE DISSEMINATION OF
GOVERNMENT *GEOGRAPHIC DATA
IN CANADA** GUIDE TO BEST PRACTICES -
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/html/summary_e.html
*I perused the pdf document -
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/Guide_to_Best_Practices_v12_finale_e.pdf
*
Read Chapter 3 & 4, particularly sections -
4.1.2 (i) Contour of Copyright Protection (ii)
Derived Works
4.1.3 Raw Data is not Protected under the Copyright
Act
4.1.4 Data Sets as Protected Compilations under the
Copyright Act
Case Study Compilation
*There is some ambiguity. It is interesting to note
that the government is
producing data for the best interest of the
government and for government
use but not necessarily for the public it
represents. I believe we have a
public access / use issue, when it comes to
government and the copyright act
i believe we need to push for more progressive
licensing. This document
also contains references to the federal TBS
policies, Communications
Policies etc. in *section 3* that are worth reading.
You will note that I
sent a question regarding provincial and territorial
regulations etc.
Finally, this is an interesting case and Regie, I
hope you will continue to
pursue it. See if the City has that vector file and
see if they will share
it and if then lets see where to go next.
Cheers
Tracey
*
*On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tracey P.
Lauriault <[hidden email]>wrote:
Thanks Reggie!
I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who knows
these things and hope
they will respond. I feel the same way about the
last two questions as
well, and I am also not sure the official's
response is correct either. She
sent you the copyright act but did she send you
anything about licenses?
hmmm.
Cheers
t
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam
<[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello Tracey,
Please find my answers embedded below.
Thanks,
Regie
--- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <[hidden email]>
wrote:
Regie;
That is a really interesting question. I am
not an
expert in this area
however here are some of questions worth
answering/considering. There are a
few experts who have some knowledge in this
area on
the list:
1. What exactly was the report authors
response?
I haven't contacted the author yet. I did contact
the
city staff that was listed as the contact person
for
the project
(
http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/environment/city_hall/getgreen/greenspace/evaluation_study_en.html
).
Her response was that the city won't be able to
support the use of city information in another
form on
the internet.
2. This is a value added exercise, it is for
non
commercial
purposes,correct?
Yes, it is for non-commercial use.
3. you are using the original dataset simply
for
reference purposes correct?
The boundaries of the Urban Natural Areas are in
.pdf
format which are contained in a report. I am
digitizing the boundaries based on these .pdf
files.
So, yes the maps are for reference purposes but
I'm
also digitizing the actual boundaries (my
digitized
boundaries would be similar to their boundaries).
4. You are creating a new dataset based on the
base
map reference. correct?
The vector maps that will be the result of my
digitizing would presumably be similar to the
ones
they have (if indeed they have a vector dataset).
5. Were you going to share the file under a cc
license at all? Were you
going to attribute the refence dataset you are
digitizing from (i.e. in the
metadata etc.)?
Yes.
6. You are not selling this information,
correct?
No, I won't be selling the information.
7. Is the contractor's report a public
document?
I think it is. I actually got hold of the report
from
the public library. The whole report including
the
maps were in CDs at the back of the report so I
copied
everything and did the digitizing at home.
8. do those boundary files only exist in that
report or do they exist
elsewhere?
I am not sure if the dataset also exist somewhere
else.
9. Does the city have that dataset?
I am not sure. I will ask the contact person.
10. You are replicating a file, in other words
you
are replicating a
pre-existing work which means making a copy but
in
another software. Would
this be analogous to re-typing a quote from a
book
in a new format?
I'd like to find out if that is the case.
11. Who has the original copyright for that?
The
report authors or the
city?
I'd like to find out this one too.
Can anyone else help?
Tracey
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