http://civicaccess.416.s1.nabble.com/copyright-issues-with-extracting-data-from-city-report-tp1157p1166.html
the library community may be able to help, e.g. writing letters of
support for an OA policy. I work with the Canadian Library
>
> Hello Tracey,
>
> Thanks for looking into this. Yes, I'll definitely
> pursue this. I have a feeling that the city do not
> have official policies with things like this. It might
> be ripe for pushing for policies that promote open
> access of city data to the public.
>
> Regie
>
>
> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> I went and looked at the *T*HE DISSEMINATION OF
>> GOVERNMENT *GEOGRAPHIC DATA
>> IN CANADA** GUIDE TO BEST PRACTICES -
>>
>
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> html/summary_e.html
>>
>> *I perused the pdf document -
>>
>
http://www.geoconnections.org/publications/Best_practices_guide/
> Guide_to_Best_Practices_v12_finale_e.pdf
>> *
>>
>> Read Chapter 3 & 4, particularly sections -
>> 4.1.2 (i) Contour of Copyright Protection (ii)
>> Derived Works
>> 4.1.3 Raw Data is not Protected under the Copyright
>> Act
>> 4.1.4 Data Sets as Protected Compilations under the
>> Copyright Act
>> Case Study Compilation
>>
>> *There is some ambiguity. It is interesting to note
>> that the government is
>> producing data for the best interest of the
>> government and for government
>> use but not necessarily for the public it
>> represents. I believe we have a
>> public access / use issue, when it comes to
>> government and the copyright act
>> i believe we need to push for more progressive
>> licensing. This document
>> also contains references to the federal TBS
>> policies, Communications
>> Policies etc. in *section 3* that are worth reading.
>> You will note that I
>> sent a question regarding provincial and territorial
>> regulations etc.
>> Finally, this is an interesting case and Regie, I
>> hope you will continue to
>> pursue it. See if the City has that vector file and
>> see if they will share
>> it and if then lets see where to go next.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tracey
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Tracey P.
>> Lauriault <
[hidden email]>wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Reggie!
>>>
>>> I'll ask around, and I have bcc someone who knows
>> these things and hope
>>> they will respond. I feel the same way about the
>> last two questions as
>>> well, and I am also not sure the official's
>> response is correct either. She
>>> sent you the copyright act but did she send you
>> anything about licenses?
>>>
>>> hmmm.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> t
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Regie Alam
>> <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Tracey,
>>>>
>>>> Please find my answers embedded below.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Regie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- "Tracey P. Lauriault" <
[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Regie;
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a really interesting question. I am
>> not an
>>>>> expert in this area
>>>>> however here are some of questions worth
>>>>> answering/considering. There are a
>>>>> few experts who have some knowledge in this
>> area on
>>>>> the list:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. What exactly was the report authors
>> response?
>>>>
>>>> I haven't contacted the author yet. I did contact
>> the
>>>> city staff that was listed as the contact person
>> for
>>>> the project
>>>> (
>>>>
>>
>
http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/environment/city_hall/getgreen/
> greenspace/evaluation_study_en.html
>>>> ).
>>>>
>>>> Her response was that the city won't be able to
>>>> support the use of city information in another
>> form on
>>>> the internet.
>>>>
>>>>> 2. This is a value added exercise, it is for
>> non
>>>>> commercial
>>>>> purposes,correct?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is for non-commercial use.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. you are using the original dataset simply
>> for
>>>>> reference purposes correct?
>>>>
>>>> The boundaries of the Urban Natural Areas are in
>> .pdf
>>>> format which are contained in a report. I am
>>>> digitizing the boundaries based on these .pdf
>> files.
>>>> So, yes the maps are for reference purposes but
>> I'm
>>>> also digitizing the actual boundaries (my
>> digitized
>>>> boundaries would be similar to their boundaries).
>>>>
>>>>> 4. You are creating a new dataset based on the
>> base
>>>>> map reference. correct?
>>>>
>>>> The vector maps that will be the result of my
>>>> digitizing would presumably be similar to the
>> ones
>>>> they have (if indeed they have a vector dataset).
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Were you going to share the file under a cc
>>>>> license at all? Were you
>>>>> going to attribute the refence dataset you are
>>>>> digitizing from (i.e. in the
>>>>> metadata etc.)?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>> 6. You are not selling this information,
>> correct?
>>>>
>>>> No, I won't be selling the information.
>>>>
>>>>> 7. Is the contractor's report a public
>> document?
>>>>
>>>> I think it is. I actually got hold of the report
>> from
>>>> the public library. The whole report including
>> the
>>>> maps were in CDs at the back of the report so I
>> copied
>>>> everything and did the digitizing at home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 8. do those boundary files only exist in that
>>>>> report or do they exist
>>>>> elsewhere?
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if the dataset also exist somewhere
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>>> 9. Does the city have that dataset?
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure. I will ask the contact person.
>>>>
>>>>> 10. You are replicating a file, in other words
>> you
>>>>> are replicating a
>>>>> pre-existing work which means making a copy but
>> in
>>>>> another software. Would
>>>>> this be analogous to re-typing a quote from a
>> book
>>>>> in a new format?
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to find out if that is the case.
>>>>
>>>>> 11. Who has the original copyright for that?
>> The
>>>>> report authors or the
>>>>> city?
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to find out this one too.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone else help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracey
>>>>>
>>
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