geocoder.ca sued for open-data crowdsourced postal code list

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Re: geocoder.ca sued for open-data crowdsourced postal code list

Cory Horner
Agreed -- that was an enjoyable read, and it completely explained the "crowdsourcing" claim.  I quite liked this:

"25. If a postal code were not a fact, but were rather a copyrighted work, Canadians would regularly infringe Canada Post's alleged sole right to produce and reproduce “any part” of the CPC Database, as such right is alleged at paragraph 5 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim. Such a result is absurd..."

...which implies writing an address on an envelope would constitute infringement.

On 2012-04-12, at 5:00 PM, James McKinney wrote:

> I really like paragraphs 23 onwards. Choice quotes:
>
> "Contrary to the Plaintiff's assertion at paragraph 11 of the Statement of Claim that 'Her Majesty's copyright to the CPC Database was
> transferred to Canada Post' under section 63 of the Canada Post Corporation, no section 63 of the current Canada Post Corporation Act  even exists. Neither does the Act that came into force in 1981 transfer such title." (emphasis mine)
>
> And: "Geolytica pleads that the CPC Database is itself a fact."
>
> Should be interesting!
>
> On 2012-04-12, at 5:05 PM, Kent Mewhort wrote:
>
>> Glad to see this is stirring up interest and some well called-for criticism!!  CIPPIC's representing Geolytica pro bono in this matter and, on Mr. Ruci's behalf, we just filed a Statement of Defense at the federal court this afternoon
>>
>> At this point I won't comment too much on the mailing list here, but for those interested,  check out the full text of our filing: http://www.cippic.ca/en/copyright/geolytica-statement-of-defence.
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Re: geocoder.ca sued for open-data crowdsourced postal code list

Tracey P. Lauriault
I am going to repeat postal codes on all my letters 6 times!  3 for mine and 3 for the person I am sending it to!

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Cory Horner <[hidden email]> wrote:
Agreed -- that was an enjoyable read, and it completely explained the "crowdsourcing" claim.  I quite liked this:

"25.    If a postal code were not a fact, but were rather a copyrighted work, Canadians would regularly infringe Canada Post's alleged sole right to produce and reproduce “any part” of the CPC Database, as such right is alleged at paragraph 5 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim. Such a result is absurd..."

...which implies writing an address on an envelope would constitute infringement.

On 2012-04-12, at 5:00 PM, James McKinney wrote:

> I really like paragraphs 23 onwards. Choice quotes:
>
> "Contrary to the Plaintiff's assertion at paragraph 11 of the Statement of Claim that 'Her Majesty's copyright to the CPC Database was
> transferred to Canada Post' under section 63 of the Canada Post Corporation, no section 63 of the current Canada Post Corporation Act  even exists. Neither does the Act that came into force in 1981 transfer such title." (emphasis mine)
>
> And: "Geolytica pleads that the CPC Database is itself a fact."
>
> Should be interesting!
>
> On 2012-04-12, at 5:05 PM, Kent Mewhort wrote:
>
>> Glad to see this is stirring up interest and some well called-for criticism!!  CIPPIC's representing Geolytica pro bono in this matter and, on Mr. Ruci's behalf, we just filed a Statement of Defense at the federal court this afternoon
>>
>> At this point I won't comment too much on the mailing list here, but for those interested,  check out the full text of our filing: http://www.cippic.ca/en/copyright/geolytica-statement-of-defence.
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Re: geocoder.ca sued for open-data crowdsourced postal code list

Glen Newton
In reply to this post by Cory Horner
This is an excellent reference for this sort of attack and I think we
should communicate this legal response, as a useful resource in itself
for others, both in the Canadian legal space and beyond.

-Glen

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Cory Horner <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Agreed -- that was an enjoyable read, and it completely explained the "crowdsourcing" claim.  I quite liked this:
>
> "25.    If a postal code were not a fact, but were rather a copyrighted work, Canadians would regularly infringe Canada Post's alleged sole right to produce and reproduce “any part” of the CPC Database, as such right is alleged at paragraph 5 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim. Such a result is absurd..."
>
> ...which implies writing an address on an envelope would constitute infringement.
>
> On 2012-04-12, at 5:00 PM, James McKinney wrote:
>
>> I really like paragraphs 23 onwards. Choice quotes:
>>
>> "Contrary to the Plaintiff's assertion at paragraph 11 of the Statement of Claim that 'Her Majesty's copyright to the CPC Database was
>> transferred to Canada Post' under section 63 of the Canada Post Corporation, no section 63 of the current Canada Post Corporation Act  even exists. Neither does the Act that came into force in 1981 transfer such title." (emphasis mine)
>>
>> And: "Geolytica pleads that the CPC Database is itself a fact."
>>
>> Should be interesting!
>>
>> On 2012-04-12, at 5:05 PM, Kent Mewhort wrote:
>>
>>> Glad to see this is stirring up interest and some well called-for criticism!!  CIPPIC's representing Geolytica pro bono in this matter and, on Mr. Ruci's behalf, we just filed a Statement of Defense at the federal court this afternoon
>>>
>>> At this point I won't comment too much on the mailing list here, but for those interested,  check out the full text of our filing: http://www.cippic.ca/en/copyright/geolytica-statement-of-defence.
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