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Working Group - OpenData Standards/Best Practices
 
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Hello
all,
In the spirit of
having a concerted effort towards developing a solid document for OpenData
Standards/Best Practices, I'd like to create a Working Group using
GoogleDocs.
My question
is......who would like to be part of this working group and have access to the
Google Doc? Please send me your email info directly at [hidden email] so I
can "share" the document with you :-)
Thanks and have
yourselves a great one!
@richardpietro |
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Richard,
Le 8 mars 2012 à 12:14, Richard Pietro a écrit : > In the spirit of having a concerted effort towards developing a solid document for OpenData Standards/Best Practices, I'd like to create a Working Group using GoogleDocs. > > My question is......who would like to be part of this working group and have access to the Google Doc? Please send me your email info directly at [hidden email] so I can "share" the document with you :-) Why not creating it at W3C as a Community Group. You will benefit of all the infrastructure. http://www.w3.org/community/ See http://www.w3.org/community/about/#cg You just need a W3C account that you can get for free http://www.w3.org/community/account/request Affiliation select "None" -- Karl Dubost Montréal, QC, Canada http://www.la-grange.net/karl/ |
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Thanks for taking the initiative, Richard. First, I think it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time a group has put together an open data standards/best practices document. Some of the most cited are: Open data principles OKFN has done a lot of great work on this. They have a very active working group and mailing list: http://wiki.okfn.org/Wg/government which has published http://opendatahandbook.org/en/ Karl didn't mention, but W3C has done a lot of work, too, through its interest group: http://www.w3.org/egov/ The EU has formalized many best practices as directives, for example: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/psi/docs/pdfs/directive/psi_directive_en.pdf UK is very active here, too. The White House also has directives and best practices for governments, like: In Canada, Privacy and Information Commissioners have a wealth of great papers, too. The recent open data consultation may offer best practices, too: http://www.open.gc.ca/consult/wwh-cr-eng.asp with notable submissions at http://datalibre.ca/2012/01/17/open-government-submissions/ So, what's our goal? Governments, NGOs, standards groups, and civil society organizations have already published a great number of papers on open data standards and best practices. I don't think it's useful to repeat that work. Do we know the material well enough to make a good quality summary/explainer? Or should we instead be addressing topics that others haven't yet addressed much? Is there a distinctly "Canadian" perspective we can offer? In short, what can we bring to the table? Organizationally, is this just a small scrum to give Harvey Low a document to bring to Brazil for the Open Government Partnership event? Or do you haver longer-term ideas in mind? Looking forward to collaborating, -- James McKinney Open North +1.514.247.0223 http://citizenbudget.com/ interactive budget consultations for municipalities Twitter: @opennorth On 2012-03-08, at 12:14 PM, Richard Pietro wrote:
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I agree with James (and his list is good but not exhaustive).
Is there something missing (there might be) that these other efforts have not covered? I would first identify them before moving forward. Perhaps it is all there but not well organized for a particular audience, so a meta-document is needed? -Glen On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks for taking the initiative, Richard. > > First, I think it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time a > group has put together an open data standards/best practices document. Some > of the most cited are: > > Open data principles > http://sunlightfoundation.com/policy/documents/ten-open-data-principles/ > http://opendefinition.org/okd/ > http://www.opengovdata.org/home/8principles > http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/repository/mon/24005/301553.pdf > > OKFN has done a lot of great work on this. They have a very active working > group and mailing list: http://wiki.okfn.org/Wg/government which has > published http://opendatahandbook.org/en/ > > Karl didn't mention, but W3C has done a lot of work, too, through its > interest group: http://www.w3.org/egov/ > http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/ > http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/GovData.html > > The EU has formalized many best practices as directives, for > example: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/psi/docs/pdfs/directive/psi_directive_en.pdf UK > is very active here, too. > > The White House also has directives and best practices for governments, > like: > http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/documents/open-government-directive > http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/toolkit > > In Canada, Privacy and Information Commissioners have a wealth of great > papers, too. The recent open data consultation may offer best practices, > too: http://www.open.gc.ca/consult/wwh-cr-eng.asp with notable submissions > at http://datalibre.ca/2012/01/17/open-government-submissions/ > > So, what's our goal? Governments, NGOs, standards groups, and civil society > organizations have already published a great number of papers on open data > standards and best practices. I don't think it's useful to repeat that work. > Do we know the material well enough to make a good quality > summary/explainer? Or should we instead be addressing topics that others > haven't yet addressed much? Is there a distinctly "Canadian" perspective we > can offer? In short, what can we bring to the table? > > Organizationally, is this just a small scrum to give Harvey Low a document > to bring to Brazil for the Open Government Partnership event? Or do you > haver longer-term ideas in mind? > > Looking forward to collaborating, > > -- > James McKinney > Open North > +1.514.247.0223 > http://opennorth.ca/ > http://citizenbudget.com/ interactive budget consultations for > municipalities > [hidden email] > Twitter: @opennorth > Subscribe to our newsletter > > On 2012-03-08, at 12:14 PM, Richard Pietro wrote: > > Hello all, > > In the spirit of having a concerted effort towards developing a solid > document for OpenData Standards/Best Practices, I'd like to create a Working > Group using GoogleDocs. > > My question is......who would like to be part of this working group and have > access to the Google Doc? Please send me your email info directly at > [hidden email] so I can "share" the document with you :-) > > Thanks and have yourselves a great one! > > > @richardpietro > Co-Founder - CitizenBridge.org > Tel: 647-760-1540 | Email: [hidden email] > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -- - http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/ - |
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Harvey and I are more novice than novice on this, so...
Also, would anyone like to write this into a blog post on datalibre? That way all the goodies are shared more broadly. Cheers t
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Glen Newton <[hidden email]> wrote: I agree with James (and his list is good but not exhaustive). -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 "Every epoch dreams the one that follows it's the dream form of the future, not its reality" it is the "wish image of the collective". Walter Benjamin, between 1927-1940, (http://www.columbia.edu/itc/architecture/ockman/pdfs/dossier_4/buck-morss.pdf) |
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On 2012-03-08, at 2:05 PM, Glen Newton wrote:
> I agree with James (and his list is good but not exhaustive). Indeed - I'm just making the point that there's a lot out there already :) > Is there something missing (there might be) that these other efforts > have not covered? Re: this working group - in Tracey's summary of the Wednesday Harvey Low call, she mentioned drafting a document to describe the needs of developers re: open government data. In today's call, I mentioned that in the last several years, open data has attracted a new community to open government: that of developers, designers and other technologists who see an opportunity to create innovative software solutions to old problems. However, this community hasn't been talking much with older communities (as Tracey has brought up several times) like libraries, geomatics, community informatics, etc. I think coming up with a strategy to bridge that gap will be hard. But a good first step (that shouldn't be too hard) would be to catalogue the needs and perspectives of the various communities. I think this may be missing from existing efforts. Such a document would help orient people from the various communities to take into account the interests of the others. I think CCSD has congregated people from many of these communities, so now is a great opportunity to write such a document. They are already receiving written submissions from various parties, which at least implicitly convey some needs and values of that community. Anyway, it would help to know what the plan is for this document. Is it just for Harvey Low to read, to better prepare him to represent Canadian civil society in Brazil? Or is there a desire to publish something for wider circulation? If it's just for Harvey Low, then a summary of what's out there in terms of open data standards/practices is totally acceptable. James > Perhaps it is all there but not well organized for a particular > audience, so a meta-document is needed? > > -Glen > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Thanks for taking the initiative, Richard. >> >> First, I think it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time a >> group has put together an open data standards/best practices document. Some >> of the most cited are: >> >> Open data principles >> http://sunlightfoundation.com/policy/documents/ten-open-data-principles/ >> http://opendefinition.org/okd/ >> http://www.opengovdata.org/home/8principles >> http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/repository/mon/24005/301553.pdf >> >> OKFN has done a lot of great work on this. They have a very active working >> group and mailing list: http://wiki.okfn.org/Wg/government which has >> published http://opendatahandbook.org/en/ >> >> Karl didn't mention, but W3C has done a lot of work, too, through its >> interest group: http://www.w3.org/egov/ >> http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/ >> http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/GovData.html >> >> The EU has formalized many best practices as directives, for >> example: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/psi/docs/pdfs/directive/psi_directive_en.pdf UK >> is very active here, too. >> >> The White House also has directives and best practices for governments, >> like: >> http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/documents/open-government-directive >> http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/toolkit >> >> In Canada, Privacy and Information Commissioners have a wealth of great >> papers, too. The recent open data consultation may offer best practices, >> too: http://www.open.gc.ca/consult/wwh-cr-eng.asp with notable submissions >> at http://datalibre.ca/2012/01/17/open-government-submissions/ >> >> So, what's our goal? Governments, NGOs, standards groups, and civil society >> organizations have already published a great number of papers on open data >> standards and best practices. I don't think it's useful to repeat that work. >> Do we know the material well enough to make a good quality >> summary/explainer? Or should we instead be addressing topics that others >> haven't yet addressed much? Is there a distinctly "Canadian" perspective we >> can offer? In short, what can we bring to the table? >> >> Organizationally, is this just a small scrum to give Harvey Low a document >> to bring to Brazil for the Open Government Partnership event? Or do you >> haver longer-term ideas in mind? >> >> Looking forward to collaborating, >> >> -- >> James McKinney >> Open North >> +1.514.247.0223 >> http://opennorth.ca/ >> http://citizenbudget.com/ interactive budget consultations for >> municipalities >> [hidden email] >> Twitter: @opennorth >> Subscribe to our newsletter >> >> On 2012-03-08, at 12:14 PM, Richard Pietro wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> In the spirit of having a concerted effort towards developing a solid >> document for OpenData Standards/Best Practices, I'd like to create a Working >> Group using GoogleDocs. >> >> My question is......who would like to be part of this working group and have >> access to the Google Doc? Please send me your email info directly at >> [hidden email] so I can "share" the document with you :-) >> >> Thanks and have yourselves a great one! >> >> >> @richardpietro >> Co-Founder - CitizenBridge.org >> Tel: 647-760-1540 | Email: [hidden email] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > > > -- > - > http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/ > - > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss |
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Yes, you need to clarify what you are looking for, otherwise
https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=%22open+data%22+autralia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=WN3e-CYSHKwkzkhDQd6QNQ&pq=%22open+data%22+best+practices&cp=28&gs_id=x9&xhr=t&q=%22open+data%22+%22best+practices%22&pf=p&client=ubuntu&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&oq=%22open+data%22+%22best+practices%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=11473130a0d738ee&biw=1281&bih=855 On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:16 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 2012-03-08, at 2:05 PM, Glen Newton wrote: > >> I agree with James (and his list is good but not exhaustive). > > Indeed - I'm just making the point that there's a lot out there already :) > >> Is there something missing (there might be) that these other efforts >> have not covered? > > Re: this working group - in Tracey's summary of the Wednesday Harvey Low call, she mentioned drafting a document to describe the needs of developers re: open government data. In today's call, I mentioned that in the last several years, open data has attracted a new community to open government: that of developers, designers and other technologists who see an opportunity to create innovative software solutions to old problems. However, this community hasn't been talking much with older communities (as Tracey has brought up several times) like libraries, geomatics, community informatics, etc. > > I think coming up with a strategy to bridge that gap will be hard. But a good first step (that shouldn't be too hard) would be to catalogue the needs and perspectives of the various communities. I think this may be missing from existing efforts. Such a document would help orient people from the various communities to take into account the interests of the others. I think CCSD has congregated people from many of these communities, so now is a great opportunity to write such a document. They are already receiving written submissions from various parties, which at least implicitly convey some needs and values of that community. > > Anyway, it would help to know what the plan is for this document. Is it just for Harvey Low to read, to better prepare him to represent Canadian civil society in Brazil? Or is there a desire to publish something for wider circulation? If it's just for Harvey Low, then a summary of what's out there in terms of open data standards/practices is totally acceptable. > > James > > > >> Perhaps it is all there but not well organized for a particular >> audience, so a meta-document is needed? >> >> -Glen >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:53 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Thanks for taking the initiative, Richard. >>> >>> First, I think it's important to recognize that this isn't the first time a >>> group has put together an open data standards/best practices document. Some >>> of the most cited are: >>> >>> Open data principles >>> http://sunlightfoundation.com/policy/documents/ten-open-data-principles/ >>> http://opendefinition.org/okd/ >>> http://www.opengovdata.org/home/8principles >>> http://www.ontla.on.ca/library/repository/mon/24005/301553.pdf >>> >>> OKFN has done a lot of great work on this. They have a very active working >>> group and mailing list: http://wiki.okfn.org/Wg/government which has >>> published http://opendatahandbook.org/en/ >>> >>> Karl didn't mention, but W3C has done a lot of work, too, through its >>> interest group: http://www.w3.org/egov/ >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/gov-data/ >>> http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/GovData.html >>> >>> The EU has formalized many best practices as directives, for >>> example: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/psi/docs/pdfs/directive/psi_directive_en.pdf UK >>> is very active here, too. >>> >>> The White House also has directives and best practices for governments, >>> like: >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/documents/open-government-directive >>> http://www.whitehouse.gov/open/toolkit >>> >>> In Canada, Privacy and Information Commissioners have a wealth of great >>> papers, too. The recent open data consultation may offer best practices, >>> too: http://www.open.gc.ca/consult/wwh-cr-eng.asp with notable submissions >>> at http://datalibre.ca/2012/01/17/open-government-submissions/ >>> >>> So, what's our goal? Governments, NGOs, standards groups, and civil society >>> organizations have already published a great number of papers on open data >>> standards and best practices. I don't think it's useful to repeat that work. >>> Do we know the material well enough to make a good quality >>> summary/explainer? Or should we instead be addressing topics that others >>> haven't yet addressed much? Is there a distinctly "Canadian" perspective we >>> can offer? In short, what can we bring to the table? >>> >>> Organizationally, is this just a small scrum to give Harvey Low a document >>> to bring to Brazil for the Open Government Partnership event? Or do you >>> haver longer-term ideas in mind? >>> >>> Looking forward to collaborating, >>> >>> -- >>> James McKinney >>> Open North >>> +1.514.247.0223 >>> http://opennorth.ca/ >>> http://citizenbudget.com/ interactive budget consultations for >>> municipalities >>> [hidden email] >>> Twitter: @opennorth >>> Subscribe to our newsletter >>> >>> On 2012-03-08, at 12:14 PM, Richard Pietro wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> In the spirit of having a concerted effort towards developing a solid >>> document for OpenData Standards/Best Practices, I'd like to create a Working >>> Group using GoogleDocs. >>> >>> My question is......who would like to be part of this working group and have >>> access to the Google Doc? Please send me your email info directly at >>> [hidden email] so I can "share" the document with you :-) >>> >>> Thanks and have yourselves a great one! >>> >>> >>> @richardpietro >>> Co-Founder - CitizenBridge.org >>> Tel: 647-760-1540 | Email: [hidden email] >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> - >> http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/ >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -- - http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/ - |
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