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"This Tract is a view into U.S. 2000 Census data for every tract,
built in anticipation of the forthcoming 2010 Census data release." http://thistract.com/ There's interesting stuff behind the data-source links at the top. You can get much more extensive information (via, of course, a far less interesting interface) on Canadian census tracts straight from statscan -- http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2006/dp-pd/prof/92-597/P3.cfm?Lang=E&CTCODE=0426&CACODE=462&PRCODE=24&PC=h2t2p5 -- but just the map file of the tracts is $1000 in Canada. |
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Cost recovery is a massive problem with Statistics Canada data. It impedes story telling about Canada and citizen input into public policy, let alone, keeping us all a little ignorant of what is up with Canadian People.
The juicy scale for data analysis at the local level are dissemination areas. I have been working on trying to get these demographic census data and their associated framework data maps out to Canadians for quite some time. It would be really great for others to do the same. The liberals have an open gov doc on the table, and the NDP are open to the idea as are the block and probably the greens. Why not send a letter to those MPs & parties requesting that the cost recovery on census data and census maps be abolished and that treasury board fund Statistics Canada in such a way that they can sustainably disseminate these data - our data back to us. Recognize that StatCan just got hit hard with all the census stuff, and got a budget cut, so asking for them to take a hit on cost recovery will be at the expense of other statcan programs unless we can get the Treasury Board to properly allocate money to them to do this. StatCan should not be asked to do this without central government financial support. Anyway, just a thought on cost recovery & the rich data resources they have which none of us can afford to look at and use! On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> wrote: "This Tract is a view into U.S. 2000 Census data for every tract, -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 |
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Isn't cost recovery for things like
stats Canada what taxes are supposed to be for? Oh wait, no
they're expanding the prison system by billions of dollars now to lock people up
instead of using the stats to figure out why they are deviant in the first place
and to redirect them towards positive pursuits - and then assess the
effectiveness of said programs by carefully monitoring the stats. They
make people like me (who has less than zero money) pay for data which
could potentially benefit millions of people either directly or
indirectly. Now that's smart cost recovery - Canadian style. I guess
that's kinda like self-cannibalism isn't it?
~D
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Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] This Tract The juicy scale for data analysis at the local level are dissemination areas. I have been working on trying to get these demographic census data and their associated framework data maps out to Canadians for quite some time. It would be really great for others to do the same. The liberals have an open gov doc on the table, and the NDP are open to the idea as are the block and probably the greens. Why not send a letter to those MPs & parties requesting that the cost recovery on census data and census maps be abolished and that treasury board fund Statistics Canada in such a way that they can sustainably disseminate these data - our data back to us. Recognize that StatCan just got hit hard with all the census stuff, and got a budget cut, so asking for them to take a hit on cost recovery will be at the expense of other statcan programs unless we can get the Treasury Board to properly allocate money to them to do this. StatCan should not be asked to do this without central government financial support. Anyway, just a thought on cost recovery & the rich data resources they have which none of us can afford to look at and use! On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]>
wrote: "This Tract is a view into U.S. 2000 Census data for every tract, -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805
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look for you MP, MPP, Mayor, City Councilor and of course our favourite - Tony Clement - and write a real paper letter!
Make it super diplomatic, gracious and informative. Be sure to include that you do not want Statistics Canada to suffer any more cut backs and you would like the Treasury Board to fund them so they can do this. StatCan has offered to share the data at not cost, and have increased access in their online community profiles, but alas, the "new government" and the central agencies turned them down. They made Statcan scale back and still sell. This is a central goverment undefunding of its agencies issue. StatCan is bound by those rules and that funding mechanism. Let me know if you do write! Remember it only took one complaint to cancel the long-form census according to Tony so in theory.... Cheers t On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Drew Mcpherson <[hidden email]> wrote:
-- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 |
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gotta agree with that one.
On 2010-10-28, at 12:55 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: look for you MP, MPP, Mayor, City Councilor and of course our favourite - Tony Clement - and write a real paper letter! |
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