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Hi Jury, Good question but loaded with ambiguity. Are you only interested in start-ups? If so, how many years can you be in business and still call yourself a start-up? :) What is successful? exists? revenue? profitable? employees? And finally - what aspect of open data? Consumes, produces, provides services for, advocates for, any of these? H On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Hi Herb, Thx for excellent feedback and I should probably not restrict this just to start-ups but my audience will be university students/young entrepreneurs that are looking to create a start-up. So let’s expand the discussion to not just be start-ups but also companies that may be using open data as part of their product/service portfolio. Success metrics is an excellent question. When we look at some of the prior app contest winners (starting with those from 2008 Washington DC contest), most of these don’t exist as a viable business. What we need to identify are those businesses that exist and have an ongoing revenue stream – profit often takes more than a year to achieve. The number of employees is an indicator of growth – Michael noted he was up to 7 employees – congrats. However, number of employees doesn’t necessarily indicate more profit and ultimately that’s what is important for long term sustainability. To your question of aspect of open data – I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data so basically all products and services included value add. Hope these comments help with the discussion. Think McKinsey report - $3Trillion economic impact potential J Cheers Jury From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Herb Lainchbury Hi Jury, Good question but loaded with ambiguity. Are you only interested in start-ups? If so, how many years can you be in business and still call yourself a start-up? :) What is successful? exists? revenue? profitable? employees? And finally - what aspect of open data? Consumes, produces, provides services for, advocates for, any of these? H On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello List I’m doing a presentation that will include start-up successes in Canada using open data. The two that jump out are Recollect and some of the apps Open North have developed. I’m interested in hearing about others that show success (beyond an app contest) – look forward to your examples. Ideally I’d like Canadian examples but obviously other successes exist beyond our borders. Thanks for your assistance Cheers Jury Konga
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"I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data"
I agree. In that case I think you need to include the *vast majority* of businesses that don't consider themselves open data businesses. They are just businesses (or organizations) that happen to consume, produce or benefit from open data. Also, non-profits don't profit by definition so I wouldn't want to use that as the success indicator. Herb On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Great – so now all we need are names J From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Herb Lainchbury "I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data" I agree. In that case I think you need to include the *vast majority* of businesses that don't consider themselves open data businesses. They are just businesses (or organizations) that happen to consume, produce or benefit from open data. Also, non-profits don't profit by definition so I wouldn't want to use that as the success indicator. Herb On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Herb, Thx for excellent feedback and I should probably not restrict this just to start-ups but my audience will be university students/young entrepreneurs that are looking to create a start-up. So let’s expand the discussion to not just be start-ups but also companies that may be using open data as part of their product/service portfolio. Success metrics is an excellent question. When we look at some of the prior app contest winners (starting with those from 2008 Washington DC contest), most of these don’t exist as a viable business. What we need to identify are those businesses that exist and have an ongoing revenue stream – profit often takes more than a year to achieve. The number of employees is an indicator of growth – Michael noted he was up to 7 employees – congrats. However, number of employees doesn’t necessarily indicate more profit and ultimately that’s what is important for long term sustainability. To your question of aspect of open data – I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data so basically all products and services included value add. Hope these comments help with the discussion. Think McKinsey report - $3Trillion economic impact potential J Cheers Jury From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Herb Lainchbury Hi Jury, Good question but loaded with ambiguity. Are you only interested in start-ups? If so, how many years can you be in business and still call yourself a start-up? :) What is successful? exists? revenue? profitable? employees? And finally - what aspect of open data? Consumes, produces, provides services for, advocates for, any of these? H On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello List I’m doing a presentation that will include start-up successes in Canada using open data. The two that jump out are Recollect and some of the apps Open North have developed. I’m interested in hearing about others that show success (beyond an app contest) – look forward to your examples. Ideally I’d like Canadian examples but obviously other successes exist beyond our borders. Thanks for your assistance Cheers Jury Konga
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And some others
http://thetransitapp.com/ Le Wed Nov 12 2014 at 2:14:37 PM, Herb Lainchbury <[hidden email]> a écrit :
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Excellent – thanks to you and Herb! Looking forward to seeing additional suggestions. From: Mathieu Leduc-Hamel [mailto:[hidden email]] And some others Le Wed Nov 12 2014 at 2:14:37 PM, Herb Lainchbury <[hidden email]> a écrit : On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Great – so now all we need are names J From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Herb Lainchbury
"I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data" I agree. In that case I think you need to include the *vast majority* of businesses that don't consider themselves open data businesses. They are just businesses (or organizations) that happen to consume, produce or benefit from open data. Also, non-profits don't profit by definition so I wouldn't want to use that as the success indicator. Herb On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Herb, Thx for excellent feedback and I should probably not restrict this just to start-ups but my audience will be university students/young entrepreneurs that are looking to create a start-up. So let’s expand the discussion to not just be start-ups but also companies that may be using open data as part of their product/service portfolio. Success metrics is an excellent question. When we look at some of the prior app contest winners (starting with those from 2008 Washington DC contest), most of these don’t exist as a viable business. What we need to identify are those businesses that exist and have an ongoing revenue stream – profit often takes more than a year to achieve. The number of employees is an indicator of growth – Michael noted he was up to 7 employees – congrats. However, number of employees doesn’t necessarily indicate more profit and ultimately that’s what is important for long term sustainability. To your question of aspect of open data – I think we should look at the whole spectrum of economic activity associated with open data so basically all products and services included value add. Hope these comments help with the discussion. Think McKinsey report - $3Trillion economic impact potential J Cheers Jury From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Herb Lainchbury Hi Jury, Good question but loaded with ambiguity. Are you only interested in start-ups? If so, how many years can you be in business and still call yourself a start-up? :) What is successful? exists? revenue? profitable? employees? And finally - what aspect of open data? Consumes, produces, provides services for, advocates for, any of these? H On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Jury Konga <[hidden email]> wrote: Hello List I’m doing a presentation that will include start-up successes in Canada using open data. The two that jump out are Recollect and some of the apps Open North have developed. I’m interested in hearing about others that show success (beyond an app contest) – look forward to your examples. Ideally I’d like Canadian examples but obviously other successes exist beyond our borders. Thanks for your assistance Cheers Jury Konga
-- Herb Lainchbury, Dynamic Solutions <a href="tel:250.704.6154" target="_blank">250.704.6154
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Thx Mita :-) Jury Konga, Principal eGovFutures Group Open Knowledge Foundation - Canada Ambassador Canadian Open Data Institute - Co-Founder Ontario IPC "Access by Design" Ambassador T. 905-640-7377 C. 647-393-8045 Skype. jury.konga Twitter @jkonga Sent from my iPhone
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