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Jennifer Bell

Re: Community Indicators in Newfoundland

More on this: it looks like a senate committee has reccomended the Community Accounts model -- where community indicator data that is normally too costly to access is collected & assembled by gov. on behalf of community groups -- be adopted in every province.

http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2009/fin/0629n02.htm

That seems like progress... I wonder what the implementation rate on senate reccomendations is?

Jennifer
http://visiblegovernment.ca

--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community Indicators in Newfoundland
> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
> Received: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 4:49 PM
> It did but it is nice to see it again
> and send more if you come across them.
>
> This is a wonderful collaboration between Alton Hollet at
> Newfoundland Stats and Doug May at Memorial University.
> They are the early pioneers in rattling and shaking data out
> of Statcan for locally based indicators projects.
>
>
> An equivalent is being developed for Nova Scotia Community
> Counts - http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/communitycounts/
> spearheaded by the same crew and a new addition Malcom
> Shookner formerly from the Ontario Social Development
> Council which are simular to social planning councils and
> who is now with the Population Health Unit Dalhousie
> University Nova Scotia who spearheaded the first quality of
> life reports for a by community groups (http://qli.spno.ca/) not
> fancy but the best locally based indicators development
> project I have seen yet for Canada.
>
>
> Cheers
> t
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM,
> Jennifer Bell <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Nifty! This is the first time I've seen something
> like this in Canada.
>
>
>
> http://www.communityaccounts.ca/communityaccounts/onlinedata/getdata.asp
>
>
>
> Apologies if this came up already.
>
>
>
> Jennifer Bell
>
> http://visiblegovernment.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Tracey P. Lauriault

Re: Community Indicators in Newfoundland

Jennifer;

The Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and
Technology mentioned in their Senate Subcommittee on Population
Health, A Healthy, Productive Canada: A Determinant of Health Approach
mentioned that the Community Accounts is a good model. This is but
one of many recommendations. Their recommendation however is for
population health and the models for these have not been agreed upon
and differ from the Community Accounts system which is not Pop Health
but general socio economic. Provinces can receive recommendations,
and if money's come attached to them, then sometimes something happens
but not normally in a uniform standard way.

I have been involved in some population health research mostly on the
indicator side, and with the absence of a model, money and coherent
affordable statistics across the country from the Provinces, the
chances of this recommendation moving forward any time soon are slim
indeed.

Another recommendation was to fund Statistics Canada properly so that
it can do its work properly, also to revisit CIHI which is a quasi NGO
that currently sells health data at a very high cost as a work around
statcan.

Cheers
t

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jennifer Bell<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> More on this: it looks like a senate committee has reccomended the Community Accounts model -- where community indicator data that is normally too costly to access is collected & assembled by gov. on behalf of community groups -- be adopted in every province.
>
> http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2009/fin/0629n02.htm
>
> That seems like progress... I wonder what the implementation rate on senate reccomendations is?
>
> Jennifer
> http://visiblegovernment.ca
>
> --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community Indicators in Newfoundland
>> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
>> Received: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 4:49 PM
>> It did but it is nice to see it again
>> and send more if you come across them.
>>
>> This is a wonderful collaboration between Alton Hollet at
>> Newfoundland Stats and Doug May at Memorial University.
>> They are the early pioneers in rattling and shaking data out
>> of Statcan for locally based indicators projects.
>>
>>
>> An equivalent is being developed for Nova Scotia Community
>> Counts - http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/communitycounts/
>> spearheaded by the same crew and a new addition Malcom
>> Shookner formerly from the Ontario Social Development
>> Council which are simular to social planning councils and
>> who is now with the Population Health Unit Dalhousie
>> University Nova Scotia who spearheaded the first quality of
>> life reports for a by community groups (http://qli.spno.ca/) not
>> fancy but the best locally based indicators development
>> project I have seen yet for Canada.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> t
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM,
>> Jennifer Bell <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Nifty! This is the first time I've seen something
>> like this in Canada.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.communityaccounts.ca/communityaccounts/onlinedata/getdata.asp
>>
>>
>>
>> Apologies if this came up already.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jennifer Bell
>>
>> http://visiblegovernment.ca
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> __________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/gift/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> 613-234-2805
>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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--
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613-234-2805
https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault

Jennifer Bell

Re: Community Indicators in Newfoundland

In reply to this post by Jennifer Bell

Ah. I see. The press release I was going from was very Nfld. specific. Looks like I'm going to have to read the report with all the reccomendations, then. Thanks.

> chances of this recommendation moving forward any time soon
> are slim indeed.

Can I quote you on that? :-)

It would be fun to have a visualization of 'Where senate reccomendations go to die', like Sunlight did for congressional bills, here:

http://www.sunlightlabs.com/blog/2009/05/26/bills-110th-congressional-session/

Jennifer
http://visiblegovernment.ca

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community Indicators in Newfoundland
> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
> Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:51 PM
> Jennifer;
>
> The Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science
> and
> Technology mentioned in their Senate Subcommittee on
> Population
> Health, A Healthy, Productive Canada: A Determinant of
> Health Approach
> mentioned that the Community Accounts is a good
> model. This is but
> one of many recommendations. Their recommendation
> however is for
> population health and the models for these have not been
> agreed upon
> and differ from the Community Accounts system which is not
> Pop Health
> but general socio economic. Provinces can receive
> recommendations,
> and if money's come attached to them, then sometimes
> something happens
> but not normally in a uniform standard way.
>
> I have been involved in some population health research
> mostly on the
> indicator side, and with the absence of a model, money and
> coherent
> affordable statistics across the country from the
> Provinces, the
> chances of this recommendation moving forward any time soon
> are slim
> indeed.
>
> Another recommendation was to fund Statistics Canada
> properly so that
> it can do its work properly, also to revisit CIHI which is
> a quasi NGO
> that currently sells health data at a very high cost as a
> work around
> statcan.
>
> Cheers
> t
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jennifer Bell<[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > More on this: it looks like a senate committee has
> reccomended the Community Accounts model -- where community
> indicator data that is normally too costly to access is
> collected & assembled by gov. on behalf of community
> groups -- be adopted in every province.
> >
> > http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2009/fin/0629n02.htm
> >
> > That seems like progress... I wonder what the
> implementation rate on senate reccomendations is?
> >
> > Jennifer
> > http://visiblegovernment.ca
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> >> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community
> Indicators in Newfoundland
> >> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
> >> Received: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 4:49 PM
> >> It did but it is nice to see it again
> >> and send more if you come across them.
> >>
> >> This is a wonderful collaboration between Alton
> Hollet at
> >> Newfoundland Stats and Doug May at Memorial
> University.
> >> They are the early pioneers in rattling and
> shaking data out
> >> of Statcan for locally based indicators projects.
> >>
> >>
> >> An equivalent is being developed for Nova Scotia
> Community
> >> Counts - http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/communitycounts/
> >> spearheaded by the same crew and a new addition
> Malcom
> >> Shookner formerly from the Ontario Social
> Development
> >> Council which are simular to social planning
> councils and
> >> who is now with the Population Health Unit
> Dalhousie
> >> University Nova Scotia who spearheaded the first
> quality of
> >> life reports for a by community groups (http://qli.spno.ca/) not
> >> fancy but the best locally based indicators
> development
> >> project I have seen yet for Canada.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> t
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM,
> >> Jennifer Bell <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nifty! This is the first time I've seen
> something
> >> like this in Canada.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.communityaccounts.ca/communityaccounts/onlinedata/getdata.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Apologies if this came up already.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jennifer Bell
> >>
> >> http://visiblegovernment.ca
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of
> Flickr!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/gift/
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> >>
> >> [hidden email]
> >>
> >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tracey P. Lauriault
> >> 613-234-2805
> >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
> > Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the
> new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now
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> > _______________________________________________
> > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tracey P. Lauriault
> 613-234-2805
> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>

Sandy Ward

New Member Introduction

Hello all,

Great to be part of this listl; it made my day to find it.

About me, Sandy Ward, Founder and CEO of HomeZilla. ( http://www.homezilla.ca ) A one-stop shop for Canadian home buyers to find neighbourhood information. And as you might have guessed we deal with a lot of data.

I am located downtown Toronto in Cabbagetown (43.668707, -79.368158). When not working on HomeZilla, you can find me collecting wine, playing hockey, golfing, making patio time at the local pub or heading back to Cape Breton for a visit. :)

Back to the data, currenlty on HomeZilla, we show Federal Election historical results based on a given address.
It is fun and a good start; during the last election it was really popular. We are now working on getting the provincial electoral bounds for all provinces. And we got two so far Ontario (which you can download from their site) and PEI which we go the other day. Look for a full step-by-step update on how we got the PEI data soon.

As you may or may not know, Elections Canada has now made polling division boundary shape files available for free through GeoGratis!! http://www.geogratis.gc.ca/download/electoral/2008/

Thanks PunditGuide for pointing it out. http://www.punditsguide.ca/

Well we have converted the Shapefile into KML so people can quickly use it in Google Earth.
Check it out: http://bit.ly/PIpWf

Looking forward to meeting and talking with you all!

Free the data! Free the data! Free the data!

Thanks,
Sandy

Original Message ----
From: Jennifer Bell <[hidden email]>
To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community Indicators in Newfoundland

Ah. I see. The press release I was going from was very Nfld. specific. Looks like I'm going to have to read the report with all the reccomendations, then. Thanks.

> chances of this recommendation moving forward any time soon
> are slim indeed.

Can I quote you on that? :-)

It would be fun to have a visualization of 'Where senate reccomendations go to die', like Sunlight did for congressional bills, here:

http://www.sunlightlabs.com/blog/2009/05/26/bills-110th-congressional-session/

Jennifer
http://visiblegovernment.ca

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community Indicators in Newfoundland
> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
> Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 4:51 PM
> Jennifer;
>
> The Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science
> and
> Technology mentioned in their Senate Subcommittee on
> Population
> Health, A Healthy, Productive Canada: A Determinant of
> Health Approach
> mentioned that the Community Accounts is a good
> model. This is but
> one of many recommendations. Their recommendation
> however is for
> population health and the models for these have not been
> agreed upon
> and differ from the Community Accounts system which is not
> Pop Health
> but general socio economic. Provinces can receive
> recommendations,
> and if money's come attached to them, then sometimes
> something happens
> but not normally in a uniform standard way.
>
> I have been involved in some population health research
> mostly on the
> indicator side, and with the absence of a model, money and
> coherent
> affordable statistics across the country from the
> Provinces, the
> chances of this recommendation moving forward any time soon
> are slim
> indeed.
>
> Another recommendation was to fund Statistics Canada
> properly so that
> it can do its work properly, also to revisit CIHI which is
> a quasi NGO
> that currently sells health data at a very high cost as a
> work around
> statcan.
>
> Cheers
> t
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jennifer Bell<[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > More on this: it looks like a senate committee has
> reccomended the Community Accounts model -- where community
> indicator data that is normally too costly to access is
> collected & assembled by gov. on behalf of community
> groups -- be adopted in every province.
> >
> > http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releases/2009/fin/0629n02.htm
> >
> > That seems like progress... I wonder what the
> implementation rate on senate reccomendations is?
> >
> > Jennifer
> > http://visiblegovernment.ca
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]>
> >> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Community
> Indicators in Newfoundland
> >> To: "civicaccess discuss" <[hidden email]>
> >> Received: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 4:49 PM
> >> It did but it is nice to see it again
> >> and send more if you come across them.
> >>
> >> This is a wonderful collaboration between Alton
> Hollet at
> >> Newfoundland Stats and Doug May at Memorial
> University.
> >> They are the early pioneers in rattling and
> shaking data out
> >> of Statcan for locally based indicators projects.
> >>
> >>
> >> An equivalent is being developed for Nova Scotia
> Community
> >> Counts - http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/communitycounts/
> >> spearheaded by the same crew and a new addition
> Malcom
> >> Shookner formerly from the Ontario Social
> Development
> >> Council which are simular to social planning
> councils and
> >> who is now with the Population Health Unit
> Dalhousie
> >> University Nova Scotia who spearheaded the first
> quality of
> >> life reports for a by community groups (http://qli.spno.ca/) not
> >> fancy but the best locally based indicators
> development
> >> project I have seen yet for Canada.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> t
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:11 PM,
> >> Jennifer Bell <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nifty! This is the first time I've seen
> something
> >> like this in Canada.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.communityaccounts.ca/communityaccounts/onlinedata/getdata.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Apologies if this came up already.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jennifer Bell
> >>
> >> http://visiblegovernment.ca
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> __________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of
> Flickr!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/gift/
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> >>
> >> [hidden email]
> >>
> >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tracey P. Lauriault
> >> 613-234-2805
> >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >
> >
> >
> __________________________________________________________________
> > Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the
> new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now
> for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
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> > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Tracey P. Lauriault
> 613-234-2805
> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
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Daniel Haran

Re: New Member Introduction

Bravo!

Converting to KML makes a lot of mash-ups far easier for non-GIS
geeks. Thanks for the contribution, and welcome to the list :)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Sandy Ward<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Great to be part of this listl; it made my day to find it.
>
> About me, Sandy Ward, Founder and CEO of HomeZilla. ( http://www.homezilla.ca ) A one-stop shop for Canadian home buyers to find neighbourhood information. And as you might have guessed we deal with a lot of data.
>
> I am located downtown Toronto in Cabbagetown (43.668707, -79.368158). When not working on HomeZilla, you can find me collecting wine, playing hockey, golfing, making patio time at the local pub or heading back to Cape Breton for a visit. :)
>
> Back to the data, currenlty on HomeZilla, we show Federal Election historical results based on a given address.
> It is fun and a good start; during the last election it was really popular. We are now working on getting the provincial electoral bounds for all provinces. And we got two so far Ontario (which you can download from their site) and PEI which we go the other day. Look for a full step-by-step update on how we got the PEI data soon.
>
> As you may or may not know, Elections Canada has now made polling division boundary shape files available for free through GeoGratis!! http://www.geogratis.gc.ca/download/electoral/2008/
>
> Thanks PunditGuide for pointing it out. http://www.punditsguide.ca/
>
> Well we have converted the Shapefile into KML so people can quickly use it in Google Earth.
> Check it out: http://bit.ly/PIpWf
>
> Looking forward to meeting and talking with you all!
>
> Free the data! Free the data! Free the data!
>
> Thanks,
> Sandy

Sandy Ward

Re: New Member Introduction

Daniel (or anyone else), if you ever have a ShapeFile you want converted we would be happy to do it.

Sandy

----- Original Message ----
From: Daniel Haran <[hidden email]>
To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:37:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] New Member Introduction

Bravo!

Converting to KML makes a lot of mash-ups far easier for non-GIS
geeks. Thanks for the contribution, and welcome to the list :)

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Sandy Ward<[hidden email]> wrote:

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