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Does anyone know why the government of Canada withdrew its application to
the OGP steering committee? http://www.opengovpartnership.org/node/3714 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:52 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17 Send CivicAccess-discuss mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CivicAccess-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (Tracey P. Lauriault) 2. thoughts on XBRL? (Claire Woodside) 3. Re: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 (Claire Woodside) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:28:22 +0100 From: "Tracey P. Lauriault" <[hidden email]> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" *Gerry;* People nominate themselves and apply. Sorta like the Open Knowledge Foundation embassadors and the Open Data Institute folks. In the case of Harvey, I filled the application to the OGP, and he was awarded status at the OGP meetings in Brazil. I consulted with some people, they supported with formal endorsements as per the process, I wrote the application, and voila he was selected for that meeting. There were 4 other submissions at that time. We did some basic outreach to get povs and we ensured that his presentation included all they key actors, cities, feds, civil society groups and examples from across Canada at that time. When he got to Brazil though, he was removed from the Canadian Panel by the Canadian Gov. who appointed someone else. In other words, he was awarded travel and accomodation, a booth, a place to present, and attendance to the socials and the meetings. It was confusing and lacked some process. Overall, in Canada, we do not really have civil society reps as other countries do, and our civil society here, on the technical side of the equation is strong, and the social entrepreneurship side, we do not really have a very engaged national civil society on this front. CIPPIC, Open North and the BC Association are the closests we have to some sort of national with a local twist, and then there are actors like the Canadian Council on Social Development, Ontatio Non Profit Network and the Social Planning Councils which are ramping up their knowledge as data users. There are of course some academic associations, and some professional associations, but they have not really picked up the ball on the open data and open gov files. Perhaps Katie Gibbs with Evidence for Democracy will eventuall ramp up some knowledge here to. Irrespective, we do fairly well overall in relative terms to other countries, due to the nature of our public administrations, governments, strong federalism, society and well educated and socially minded puplic. We have many active locals, and the CIOs/CTOs of provinces and territories have come on side ever so slowly. It would however be good, as we discored during the cancellation of the census, to have some sort of unifying political voice/convening group that could represent the public on these issues. We do have much work still to do. *Michael;* Regarding Chris, because he works for a consulting firm, he would not qualify as a civil society rep, unless of course he was part of a civil society organization. The application process is quite specific on that front. No question on his expertise, it however leans toward teck and city and less social and civil society. I also agree that we need some hybrids. Cheers t On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Michael Lenczner > CEO, Ajah > http://www.ajah.ca > 514-708-5112 > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault > <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society >> representation. >> >> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things >> only and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point >> of view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >> >> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, >> private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional >> meetings in Dublin. >> > > Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years > as a municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within > municipal gov (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an > ideal candidate to represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he > is nominated - just based on what I know of his understanding of open gov > >> >> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, >> open data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged >> in open data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters. >> It would also be great to have someone who is considered a >> representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand >> behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also >> sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. >> >> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on >> Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some >> consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal >> in terms of consultation at best. >> > > It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the > old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new > side of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight > standards, > XML/APIs/etc.) We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate. > > >> Cheers >> t >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >>> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around >>> more on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination >>> >>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >>> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the >>> Canadians make the cut, though. >>> >>> Chris Moore >>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >>> >>> Toby Mendel >>> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >>> >>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >>> Reboot >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-st >>> eering-committee/ >>> >>> >>> Michael Lenczner >>> CEO, Ajah >>> http://www.ajah.ca >>> 514-708-5112 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tracey P. Lauriault >> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >> http://datalibre.ca/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > -- Tracey P. Lauriault http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault http://datalibre.ca/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/c3fb f840/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:43:16 -0400 From: "Claire Woodside" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] thoughts on XBRL? Message-ID: <005101cfa524$668d84b0$33a88e10$@pwyp.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" XBRL Canada made a submission to the Canadian government on the development of mandatory payment reporting standards for extractive companies advocating that the reporting template be developed using XBRL. Does anyone have any thoughts on the benefits/drawbacks of XBRL as a data format? http://data.gc.ca/eng/content/comments-received-response-consultation-mandat ory-reporting-standards-extractive-sector Cheers, Claire Claire Woodside Director/Directrice | Publish What You Pay-Canada/Publiez Ce Que Vous Payez-Canada Unit 600-331 Cooper st. | Ottawa ON K2P 0G5 1-613-237-6768 ext.7 (o) | 1-613-794-3536 (m) | Skype: HelenClaire04 <mailto:[hidden email]> [hidden email] | <http://www.pwyp.ca/> www.pwyp.ca | @PwypCanada -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/2ee2 8859/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:49:56 -0400 From: "Claire Woodside" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 Message-ID: <005601cfa525$54faa880$feeff980$@pwyp.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they view themselves as a representative of civil society globally, but also Canadian civil society. It is critical that that individual take the time and initiative to inform and engage Canadian CSOs on the OGP process, key decisions etc. It would be interesting to know how each individual plans to undertake that engagement? Perhaps this is something we can ask them. I know that within the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative CSO board reps host calls to brief CSOs and get feedback before board meeting, but particularly board meetings where important decisions will be taken, but also they will provide CSOs with a post-board meeting update. This engagement is regionally focused, with the North American CSO board rep engaging North American CSOs. This allows CSOs to engage with government board reps after/in advance of meetings to try and influence their positions on key issues of importance to CSOs. I meet regularly with the Canadian representative to the EITI board. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 1:11 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 Send CivicAccess-discuss mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CivicAccess-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (Gerry Tychon) 2. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (Michael Lenczner) 3. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (James McKinney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:26:51 -0600 From: Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/3cee 874b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:37:28 -0400 From: Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <CAKq=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Michael Lenczner CEO, Ajah http://www.ajah.ca 514-708-5112 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. > > Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only > and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of > view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. > > Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, > private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional > meetings in Dublin. > Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years as a municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within municipal gov (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an ideal candidate to represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he is nominated - just based on what I know of his understanding of open gov and open data. > > We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open > data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open > data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate > those waters. > It would also be great to have someone who is considered a > representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand > behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also > sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. > > We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on > Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some > consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal > in terms of consultation at best. > It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new side of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight standards, XML/APIs/etc.) We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate. > Cheers > t > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more >> on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination >> (url >> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the >> Canadians make the cut, though. >> >> Chris Moore >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >> >> Toby Mendel >> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >> Reboot >> >> >> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >> ering-committee/ >> >> >> Michael Lenczner >> CEO, Ajah >> http://www.ajah.ca >> 514-708-5112 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > > > > -- > Tracey P. Lauriault > http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ > https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault > http://datalibre.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/9439 451f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:25 -0400 From: James McKinney <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> wrote: > Pardon my ignorance but how do candidates actually become candidates. Join the OGP Civil Society mailing list for all updates: https://dgroups.org/hivos/ogp The post was re-published on several other lists including CivicAccess on April 25 by Harvey Low. Nominations were open from April 25 to June 15. I believe all were self-nominations, based on the submissions. James > ... ggt > > On 21/07/2014 5:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: >> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. >> >> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things >> only and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >> >> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, >> private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional meetings in Dublin. >> >> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, >> open data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters. It would also be great to have someone who is considered a representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. >> >> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on >> Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal in terms of consultation at best. >> >> Cheers >> t >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below). >> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the Canadians make the cut, though. >> >> Chris Moore >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >> >> Toby Mendel >> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >> Reboot >> >> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >> ering-committee/ >> >> >> Michael Lenczner >> CEO, Ajah >> http://www.ajah.ca >> 514-708-5112 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> Tracey P. Lauriault >> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >> http://datalibre.ca/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No, but will definitely ask at the next Advisory Panel meeting.
On Jul 21, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Claire Woodside <[hidden email]> wrote: > Does anyone know why the government of Canada withdrew its application to > the OGP steering committee? > > http://www.opengovpartnership.org/node/3714 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 4:52 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17 > > Send CivicAccess-discuss mailing list submissions to > [hidden email] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [hidden email] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [hidden email] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of CivicAccess-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering > committee (Tracey P. Lauriault) > 2. thoughts on XBRL? (Claire Woodside) > 3. Re: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 (Claire Woodside) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:28:22 +0100 > From: "Tracey P. Lauriault" <[hidden email]> > To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates > for the OGP steering committee > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > *Gerry;* > > People nominate themselves and apply. Sorta like the Open Knowledge > Foundation embassadors and the Open Data Institute folks. > > In the case of Harvey, I filled the application to the OGP, and he was > awarded status at the OGP meetings in Brazil. I consulted with some people, > they supported with formal endorsements as per the process, I wrote the > application, and voila he was selected for that meeting. There were 4 other > submissions at that time. We did some basic outreach to get povs and we > ensured that his presentation included all they key actors, cities, feds, > civil society groups and examples from across Canada at that time. > > When he got to Brazil though, he was removed from the Canadian Panel by the > Canadian Gov. who appointed someone else. In other words, he was awarded > travel and accomodation, a booth, a place to present, and attendance to the > socials and the meetings. It was confusing and lacked some process. > > Overall, in Canada, we do not really have civil society reps as other > countries do, and our civil society here, on the technical side of the > equation is strong, and the social entrepreneurship side, we do not really > have a very engaged national civil society on this front. CIPPIC, Open > North and the BC Association are the closests we have to some sort of > national with a local twist, and then there are actors like the Canadian > Council on Social Development, Ontatio Non Profit Network and the Social > Planning Councils which are ramping up their knowledge as data users. > There are of course some academic associations, and some professional > associations, but they have not really picked up the ball on the open data > and open gov files. Perhaps Katie Gibbs with Evidence for Democracy will > eventuall ramp up some knowledge here to. > > Irrespective, we do fairly well overall in relative terms to other > countries, due to the nature of our public administrations, governments, > strong federalism, society and well educated and socially minded puplic. > We have many active locals, and the CIOs/CTOs of provinces and territories > have come on side ever so slowly. It would however be good, as we discored > during the cancellation of the census, to have some sort of unifying > political voice/convening group that could represent the public on these > issues. We do have much work still to do. > > *Michael;* > > Regarding Chris, because he works for a consulting firm, he would not > qualify as a civil society rep, unless of course he was part of a civil > society organization. The application process is quite specific on that > front. No question on his expertise, it however leans toward teck and city > and less social and civil society. I also agree that we need some hybrids. > > Cheers > t > > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> >> Michael Lenczner >> CEO, Ajah >> http://www.ajah.ca >> 514-708-5112 >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault >> <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >>> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society >>> representation. >>> >>> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things >>> only and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point >>> of view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >>> >>> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, >>> private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional >>> meetings in Dublin. >>> >> >> Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years >> as a municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within >> municipal gov (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an >> ideal candidate to represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he >> is nominated - just based on what I know of his understanding of open gov > and open data. >> >>> >>> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, >>> open data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged >>> in open data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate > those waters. >>> It would also be great to have someone who is considered a >>> representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand >>> behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also >>> sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their > concerns forward. >>> >>> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on >>> Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some >>> consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal >>> in terms of consultation at best. >>> >> >> It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the >> old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new >> side of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight >> standards, >> XML/APIs/etc.) We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate. >> >> >>> Cheers >>> t >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >>>> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around >>>> more on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination > (url below). >>>> >>>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >>>> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the >>>> Canadians make the cut, though. >>>> >>>> Chris Moore >>>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >>>> >>>> Toby Mendel >>>> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >>>> >>>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >>>> Reboot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-st >>>> eering-committee/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael Lenczner >>>> CEO, Ajah >>>> http://www.ajah.ca >>>> 514-708-5112 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tracey P. Lauriault >>> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >>> http://datalibre.ca/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > > > > -- > Tracey P. Lauriault > http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ > https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault > http://datalibre.ca/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/c3fb > f840/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:43:16 -0400 > From: "Claire Woodside" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] thoughts on XBRL? > Message-ID: <005101cfa524$668d84b0$33a88e10$@pwyp.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > XBRL Canada made a submission to the Canadian government on the development > of mandatory payment reporting standards for extractive companies advocating > that the reporting template be developed using XBRL. Does anyone have any > thoughts on the benefits/drawbacks of XBRL as a data format? > > > > http://data.gc.ca/eng/content/comments-received-response-consultation-mandat > ory-reporting-standards-extractive-sector > > > > Cheers, > > > > Claire > > > > Claire Woodside > > > > Director/Directrice | Publish What You Pay-Canada/Publiez Ce Que Vous > Payez-Canada > > Unit 600-331 Cooper st. | Ottawa ON K2P 0G5 > > 1-613-237-6768 ext.7 (o) | 1-613-794-3536 (m) | Skype: HelenClaire04 > > <mailto:[hidden email]> [hidden email] | <http://www.pwyp.ca/> > www.pwyp.ca | @PwypCanada > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/2ee2 > 8859/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:49:56 -0400 > From: "Claire Woodside" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, > Issue 16 > Message-ID: <005601cfa525$54faa880$feeff980$@pwyp.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they > view themselves as a representative of civil society globally, but also > Canadian civil society. It is critical that that individual take the time > and initiative to inform and engage Canadian CSOs on the OGP process, key > decisions etc. It would be interesting to know how each individual plans to > undertake that engagement? Perhaps this is something we can ask them. > > I know that within the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative CSO > board reps host calls to brief CSOs and get feedback before board meeting, > but particularly board meetings where important decisions will be taken, but > also they will provide CSOs with a post-board meeting update. This > engagement is regionally focused, with the North American CSO board rep > engaging North American CSOs. This allows CSOs to engage with government > board reps after/in advance of meetings to try and influence their positions > on key issues of importance to CSOs. I meet regularly with the Canadian > representative to the EITI board. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of > [hidden email] > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 1:11 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 > > Send CivicAccess-discuss mailing list submissions to > [hidden email] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [hidden email] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [hidden email] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of CivicAccess-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering > committee (Gerry Tychon) > 2. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering > committee (Michael Lenczner) > 3. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering > committee (James McKinney) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:26:51 -0600 > From: Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates > for the OGP steering committee > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/3cee > 874b/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:37:28 -0400 > From: Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> > To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates > for the OGP steering committee > Message-ID: > <CAKq=[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Michael Lenczner > CEO, Ajah > http://www.ajah.ca > 514-708-5112 > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> > wrote: > >> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. >> >> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only >> and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of >> view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >> >> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, >> private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional >> meetings in Dublin. >> > > Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years as a > municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within municipal gov > (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an ideal candidate to > represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he is nominated - just based > on what I know of his understanding of open gov and open data. > >> >> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open >> data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open >> data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate >> those > waters. >> It would also be great to have someone who is considered a >> representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand >> behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also >> sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their > concerns forward. >> >> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on >> Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some >> consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal >> in terms of consultation at best. >> > > It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the > old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new side > of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight standards, > XML/APIs/etc.) We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate. > > >> Cheers >> t >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >>> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more >>> on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination >>> (url > below). >>> >>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >>> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the >>> Canadians make the cut, though. >>> >>> Chris Moore >>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >>> >>> Toby Mendel >>> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >>> >>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >>> Reboot >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >>> ering-committee/ >>> >>> >>> Michael Lenczner >>> CEO, Ajah >>> http://www.ajah.ca >>> 514-708-5112 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tracey P. Lauriault >> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >> http://datalibre.ca/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/9439 > 451f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:25 -0400 > From: James McKinney <[hidden email]> > To: [hidden email], civicaccess discuss > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates > for the OGP steering committee > Message-ID: <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Pardon my ignorance but how do candidates actually become candidates. > > Join the OGP Civil Society mailing list for all updates: > https://dgroups.org/hivos/ogp > > The post was re-published on several other lists including CivicAccess on > April 25 by Harvey Low. > > Nominations were open from April 25 to June 15. > > I believe all were self-nominations, based on the submissions. > > James > > >> ... ggt >> >> On 21/07/2014 5:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: >>> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. > >>> >>> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things >>> only > and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of view > forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >>> >>> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, >>> private > sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional meetings in > Dublin. >>> >>> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, >>> open > data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open data > app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters. > It would also be great to have someone who is considered a representative, > someone civil society has nominated or who can stand behind, who has a > national understanding of the issues but also sub-national and who may > consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. >>> >>> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on >>> Social > Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some consultations > by conference call and email, but even that was minimal in terms of > consultation at best. >>> >>> Cheers >>> t >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> > wrote: >>> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >>> OGP > Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more on that > site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below). >>> >>> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >>> already > decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the Canadians make the > cut, though. >>> >>> Chris Moore >>> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >>> >>> Toby Mendel >>> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >>> >>> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >>> Reboot >>> >>> >>> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >>> ering-committee/ >>> >>> >>> Michael Lenczner >>> CEO, Ajah >>> http://www.ajah.ca >>> 514-708-5112 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tracey P. Lauriault >>> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >>> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >>> http://datalibre.ca/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/65be > 2a4d/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > End of CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 > *************************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > End of CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 17 > *************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss _______________________________________________ CivicAccess-discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss |
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