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I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they
view themselves as a representative of civil society globally, but also Canadian civil society. It is critical that that individual take the time and initiative to inform and engage Canadian CSOs on the OGP process, key decisions etc. It would be interesting to know how each individual plans to undertake that engagement? Perhaps this is something we can ask them. I know that within the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative CSO board reps host calls to brief CSOs and get feedback before board meeting, but particularly board meetings where important decisions will be taken, but also they will provide CSOs with a post-board meeting update. This engagement is regionally focused, with the North American CSO board rep engaging North American CSOs. This allows CSOs to engage with government board reps after/in advance of meetings to try and influence their positions on key issues of importance to CSOs. I meet regularly with the Canadian representative to the EITI board. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 1:11 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 83, Issue 16 Send CivicAccess-discuss mailing list submissions to [hidden email] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [hidden email] You can reach the person managing the list at [hidden email] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CivicAccess-discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (Gerry Tychon) 2. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (Michael Lenczner) 3. Re: Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee (James McKinney) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:26:51 -0600 From: Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/3cee 874b/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:37:28 -0400 From: Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <CAKq=[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Michael Lenczner CEO, Ajah http://www.ajah.ca 514-708-5112 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. > > Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only > and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of > view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. > > Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, > private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional > meetings in Dublin. > Any reason you say that Chris Moore represent private sector? 15 years as a municipal CIO means that he has extensive experience within municipal gov (an important stakeholder) but I agree that he isn't an ideal candidate to represent civil society. However, I'm glad that he is nominated - just based on what I know of his understanding of open gov and open data. > > We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open > data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open > data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters. > It would also be great to have someone who is considered a > representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand > behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also > sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. > > We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on > Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some > consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal > in terms of consultation at best. > It's too bad that there aren't a few organizations that master the old-school access to data stuff (i.e. CCSD, SCPOs) as well as the new side of things (metadata, open data portals, developing lightweight standards, XML/APIs/etc.) We need a hybrid CCSD / Open North candidate. > Cheers > t > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the >> OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more >> on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below). >> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is >> already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the >> Canadians make the cut, though. >> >> Chris Moore >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >> >> Toby Mendel >> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >> Reboot >> >> >> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >> ering-committee/ >> >> >> Michael Lenczner >> CEO, Ajah >> http://www.ajah.ca >> 514-708-5112 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > > > > -- > Tracey P. Lauriault > http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ > https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault > http://datalibre.ca/ > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.pwd.ca/pipermail/civicaccess-discuss/attachments/20140721/9439 451f/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:25 -0400 From: James McKinney <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email], civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] Oldish(?) news: Canadian candidates for the OGP steering committee Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gerry Tychon <[hidden email]> wrote: > Pardon my ignorance but how do candidates actually become candidates. Join the OGP Civil Society mailing list for all updates: https://dgroups.org/hivos/ogp The post was re-published on several other lists including CivicAccess on April 25 by Harvey Low. Nominations were open from April 25 to June 15. I believe all were self-nominations, based on the submissions. James > ... ggt > > On 21/07/2014 5:29 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: >> It is unfortunate that we do not have solid civil society representation. >> >> Toby Mendel is excellent, but represents the legal side of things only and to the best of my knowledge brings his organization's point of view forward but not that domain of civil society actors more broadly. >> >> Chris Moore is also great, but hardly represents civil society, private sector maybe, which was a big contingent at OGP EU Regional meetings in Dublin. >> >> We need someone or an organization that can parlay public policy, open data, open access, and ngos who are data users but not engaged in open data app development necessarily, but is savvy enough to navigate those waters. It would also be great to have someone who is considered a representative, someone civil society has nominated or who can stand behind, who has a national understanding of the issues but also sub-national and who may consult with key stakeholders and bring their concerns forward. >> >> We did that somewhat when Harvey Low from the Canadian Council on Social Development and the FCM went to Brazil, and we conducted some consultations by conference call and email, but even that was minimal in terms of consultation at best. >> >> Cheers >> t >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Lenczner <[hidden email]> wrote: >> 2 Canadians on the list of civil society candidates for the for the OGP Steering Committee. If you're interested, you can dig around more on that site for more info including CVs and letters of nomination (url below). >> >> There's been no update since June 30th, 2014 - so maybe this is already decided and I'm not aware. I hope one (or more) of the Canadians make the cut, though. >> >> Chris Moore >> (former Chief Information Officer of the city of Edmonton) >> >> Toby Mendel >> (Centre for Law & Democracy) >> >> And Panthea Lee - applying for either Canada or Taiwan (it's unclear). >> Reboot >> >> >> http://www.ogphub.org/blog/here-are-the-37-candidates-for-the-ogp-ste >> ering-committee/ >> >> >> Michael Lenczner >> CEO, Ajah >> http://www.ajah.ca >> 514-708-5112 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> Tracey P. Lauriault >> http://traceyplauriault.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/moving-to-ireland/ >> https://gcrc.carleton.ca/confluence/display/GCRCWEB/Lauriault >> http://datalibre.ca/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Monday, July 21, 2014, Claire Woodside <[hidden email]> wrote: I think that if someone is selected from Canada, it is important that they I like your thinking here Claire! So far those who have put their names forward have done no outreach.
I guess the difference in the EITI CSO case is an organiZation with a mandate and resources to so this work within a community of practice that shares a thematic shared interest. There is no organization so far in Canada that has the mandate to do this on the opengov and open data file.
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