Re: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 56, Issue 67

[Dawn Buie]

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On 2012-03-29, at 12:00 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

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>   1. Defining Property - Paul Graham (Glen Newton)
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> Paul Graham has an interesting angle on property and intellectual property.
> His analogy comparing scented air sold on the moonbase to an old
> Japanese story about charging for the smell of rice from a street
> stall is particularly compelling:
> http://www.paulgraham.com/property.html
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> Paul Graham is a highly regarded computer scientist (esp in AI and
> LISP) and also a very successful business person / venture capitalist:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Graham_%28computer_programmer%29
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> -Glen Newton
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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:37:57 -0700
> From: David Eaves <[hidden email]>
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> This is great. Thank you Glen, always been a fan of Paul Graham's thinking.
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> On 12-03-29 6:26 AM, Glen Newton wrote:
>> Paul Graham has an interesting angle on property and intellectual property.
>>  His analogy comparing scented air sold on the moonbase to an old
>> Japanese story about charging for the smell of rice from a street
>> stall is particularly compelling:
>>  http://www.paulgraham.com/property.html
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>> Paul Graham is a highly regarded computer scientist (esp in AI and
>> LISP) and also a very successful business person / venture capitalist:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Graham_%28computer_programmer%29
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>> -Glen Newton
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> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:43:09 -0400
> From: Karl Dubost <[hidden email]>
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> Le 29 mars 2012 ? 09:26, Glen Newton a ?crit :
>> stall is particularly compelling:
>> http://www.paulgraham.com/property.html
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> What creates property is a fence for blocking access.
> It doesn't exist by its own.
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> The moon example is working because the moon base is a sealed environment (a fence). You are out or in. The economy of the books are based on a text fenced by a physical object (paper). As long as it is hard to reproduce, to distribute, the value is kept in this paper object (the fence). Once you create a way to distribute, copy at very low cost, accessible to anyone, the fence is meaningless, and then the value is falling apart. Hence industry trying to create new fences with DRM.
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