Re: CivicAccess-discuss Digest, Vol 51, Issue 6

[Tracey P. Lauriault]

Jonathan and Alex;

I have been maintaining the current canadian list on datalibre and
said that I would update and look at the list that oknf has but
together and contribute what I have.

Jonathan, what is the date for the Warsaw conference?  I will try to
get the stuff in there by then.  I will still continue to keep the
datalibre list however as it is a canadian homebase with lots of
readers who are not 'open data' folks but come from many other data
using communities.

Cheers
t

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>   1. List of Canadian open data catalogs? (Jonathan Gray)
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> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:02:54 +0200
> From: Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] List of Canadian open data catalogs?
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> Hi all,
>
> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>
> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>
> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>
> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>
> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> --
> Jonathan Gray
>
> Community Coordinator
> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://www.okfn.org
>
> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:43:02 -0400
> From: Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]>
> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] List of Canadian open data
>        catalogs?
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> Howdy,
>
> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
> license, and URL:
>
> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>
> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
> API is out in beta<http://blog.buzzdata.com/post/10200688424/our-api-is-now-in-beta-and-ready-for-testing>
> .
>
> A
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>
>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>
>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>
>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>
>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>
>> Anyone interested?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
>>
>> Community Coordinator
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://www.okfn.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
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> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:14:46 +0200
> From: Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] List of Canadian open data
>        catalogs?
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> Thanks Alex!
>
> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>
> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
> the world [2].
>
> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
> this yet.
>
> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>
> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
> datasets from around the world.
>
> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
> [2] see http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
> [3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>> license, and URL:
>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>> API is out in beta.
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>
>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>
>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>
>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>
>>> Anyone interested?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>
>>> Community Coordinator
>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:08:20 -0400
> From: James McKinney <[hidden email]>
> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]>
> Cc: Momoko Price <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [CivicAccess-discuss] List of Canadian open data
>        catalogs?
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> Jonathan,
>
> I was one of the contributors to that OKF spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and updated/removed incorrect listings.
>
> The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org. It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and should be removed.)
>
> How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as I have no idea what the process is. Also, how does one add new catalogs and add catalogs to groups? Anyway, you are missing:
>
> Ottawa  http://www.ottawa.ca/online_services/opendata/index_en.html
> North Vancouver http://geoweb.dnv.org/
> Surrey  http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx
> British Columbia        http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/
> Mississauga     http://www.mississauga.ca/data
> Niagara Falls   http://www.niagarafalls.ca/services/open/default.aspx
> Prince George   http://princegeorge.ca/cityservices/online/odc/Pages/default.aspx
> Hamilton        http://www.hamilton.ca/ProjectsInitiatives/OpenData/
> Burlington      http://cms.burlington.ca/Page7429.aspx
> Windsor http://www.citywindsor.ca/003713.asp
>
> Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.
>
> Better naming conventions would go a long way towards scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?
>
> See you at OGD Camp!
>
> James
>
> On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
>> Thanks Alex!
>>
>> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
>> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
>> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>>
>> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
>> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
>> the world [2].
>>
>> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
>> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
>> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
>> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
>> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
>> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
>> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
>> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
>> this yet.
>>
>> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
>> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
>> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>>
>> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
>> datasets from around the world.
>>
>> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
>> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
>> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
>> [2] see http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
>> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
>> [3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>>> license, and URL:
>>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>>> API is out in beta.
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>>
>>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>>
>>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>>
>>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>>
>>>> Anyone interested?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>
>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>
>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
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>>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
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>>
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