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I attended the Cybera (http://www.cybera.ca/) Summit in Banff a couple of weeks ago, and it struck me how little I know about cloud computing, the infrastructure of the Internet, server farms and energy consumption and ideas around green computing. I have looked a little at energy and server farms and a bit at the toxic waste produced by the mobile device trash, but have not really thought of the cost of 24-7 data access and how to design more efficiently.
I came across this (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/green/facebook-open-hardware-integral-to-green-it-infrastructure/19261) article today about http://opencompute.org/ that brought up some newish terms, newish in the sense that I have heard them before but really do not know much about them:
The California Ideology comes to mind once again (http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/theory-californianideology.html). |
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If, as we dream/home, government uses open data and/or the infrastructure on which it depends as a means to share information efficiently between departments, etc., then we should require fewer systems. So, I don't think asking for open data/government leads to any ethical dilemmas re: green environment.
On 2011-10-31, at 9:47 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: I attended the Cybera (http://www.cybera.ca/) Summit in Banff a couple of weeks ago, and it struck me how little I know about cloud computing, the infrastructure of the Internet, server farms and energy consumption and ideas around green computing. I have looked a little at energy and server farms and a bit at the toxic waste produced by the mobile device trash, but have not really thought of the cost of 24-7 data access and how to design more efficiently. |
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Thanks James;
I was thinking that there is merit in considering green technologies as well as open data and open government, and also considering what it means to purchase new mobile devices with each release and tossing old devices in the trash every couple of years. It would seem that if we are thinking green then we also need to consider the devices we use to disseminate and view data with. Cheers t On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Let's not conflate these different but related issues.
Related to the Green Computing: New Scientist: Internet Responsible for 2 Percent of Global Energy Usage http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2011/10/307-gw-the-maximum-energy-the.html -Glen Newton On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thanks James; > > I was thinking that there is merit in considering green technologies as well > as open data and open government, and also considering what it means to > purchase new mobile devices with each release and tossing old devices in the > trash every couple of years. It would seem that if we are thinking green > then we also need to consider the devices we use to disseminate and view > data with. > > Cheers > t > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:00 AM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> If, as we dream/home, government uses open data and/or the infrastructure >> on which it depends as a means to share information efficiently between >> departments, etc., then we should require fewer systems. So, I don't think >> asking for open data/government leads to any ethical dilemmas re: green >> environment. >> On 2011-10-31, at 9:47 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote: >> >> I attended the Cybera (http://www.cybera.ca/) Summit in Banff a couple of >> weeks ago, and it struck me how little I know about cloud computing, the >> infrastructure of the Internet, server farms and energy consumption and >> ideas around green computing. I have looked a little at energy and server >> farms and a bit at the toxic waste produced by the mobile device trash, but >> have not really thought of the cost of 24-7 data access and how to design >> more efficiently. >> >> I came across this >> (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/green/facebook-open-hardware-integral-to-green-it-infrastructure/19261) >> article today about http://opencompute.org/ that brought up some newish >> terms, newish in the sense that I have heard them before but really do not >> know much about them: >> >> green computing >> open hardware >> power distribution design >> openRack specifications >> virtualization >> >> It is so interesting that we want open data and open government, greener >> environments, social justice etc., yet the systems that help us deliver the >> data and information we need and the devices upon which we receive those >> data and information, well, pollute, suck up much energy, create toxic waste >> and are often produced in factories that are, to say the least, not labour >> rights friendly. >> >> The California Ideology comes to mind once again >> (http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/theory-californianideology.html). >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > -- - http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/ - |
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There are many issues and costs when you look at cloud computing. In general you do it to save people ie support costs and if you hit a problem then everyone gets hit. In Australia recently one of the big hosting companies got hit by Malware, all their backups were on line so everything got zapped including the backups. They ceased trading and many of their customers went bankrupt.
You can optimise database servers by adding more memory to them then consolidating them. This is fine until you run a large job on one of the databases which kills the performance on the other databases. One snag I have seen is software licensing costs, especially when the license is for every physical processor on the server whether it is running the software or not. Cheerio John On 31 October 2011 11:06, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: Thanks James; |
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