I went looking to see what kind of data came out this week in Canada in relation to the 101st Birthday of Women's Day. Not much is the answer, 1 new report and it looks like our media focussed primarily on international data indicators or prepared stories based on storylines coming from elsewhere. I found a few visualizations. The international content was good, and our Open Data UK friends did some nice work as always. I then went looking into some Canadian data portals to see what kind of data were tagged women, that made me sad. So then I went to look at what kind of indicators could be tracked, and put together a fast list of open data ideas.
Canada -
Visualization:
International:
What is in the data portals? I used women as a key word search:
Data ideas: Here are some dataset ideas!
Open Data IDEAS:
Overall, few datasets, and our data portals demonstrate no thematic focus and the search functions & tagging systems are pretty slim & trim on choice.
Cheers
t
Tracey
613-234-2805
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Re: elections, Equal Voice does work and research on that: http://www.equalvoice.ca/index.cfm#null
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The Access to Information Act requires the federal government to publish classes of records that are held in a government department. It's kinda like a highlevel information catalogue. It's located on www.infosource.gc.ca. Here's a list's of departments info catalogues with the word "women" in it.
If you're interested in what people are ordering from these departments, http://www.open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ati-aai-eng.asp Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1563/1563-fedemp02-eng.asp - National Talent Bank of Farm and Rural Women Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1506/1506-fedemp02-eng.asp - Young Entrepreneur Development Initiative and the Women in Business Initiative, and the Business Development Program is the primary funding program. - Information related to the Atlantic Investment Partnership, Atlantic Population Strategy, Women in Business Initiative and the Youth Entrepreneurship Development Initiative. Bank of Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1667/1667-fedemp02-eng.asp - Employment equity program: employment equity policy and program. Data are collected to provide a comprehensive picture of Bank staff by designated groups (e.g., women, aboriginal peoples, persons with disabilities and members of visible minority groups). Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1568/1568-fedemp02-eng.asp Employment Equity File: Employment Equity-General; Employment Equity Plan; Persons of Aboriginal Origin; Persons with Disabilities; Women; Visible Minorities; Employment Equity-Self-Identification Forms. Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1495/1495-fedemp00-eng.asp Family Violence Initiatives - c) Shelter Enhancement Program (SEP) - forgivable loans to repair, rehabilitate and improve existing shelters for women, children and youth Canadian Heritage http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1479/1479-fedemp02-eng.asp - Aboriginal Peoples' Program:... focuses specifically on the unique challenges faced by Aboriginal women, youth and urban communities with the intent of strengthening Aboriginal cultural identity and participation of Aboriginal Peoples in Canadian society Correctional Services of Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1573/1573-fedemp02-eng.asp -Reintegration program: Living skills programs, sex offender programs, violence prevention programs, substance abuse programs, aboriginal Reintegration Programs, women offender programs, ethno-cultural services, program inventory, program description, program availability, program standards, accreditation case files, program evaluation research, staff training program content, program policy. - Aboriginal Initiatives: Information on matters relating to the cultural needs of Aboriginal offenders... Aboriginal correctional treatment issues, ..., Aboriginal women offenders - Women offenders: General information related to meetings, policies, planning, data on Women Offenders, budget and resource information, communications, information with respect to various operational and planning committees, institutional and community programs, services and operations, staff training, staffing, federal women's institutions, provincial institutions that house federal women, the Arbour Inquiry, reports of the Auditor General and Canadian Human Rights Commission, etc., information relating to CSC links to the Elizabeth Fry Society and other non-governmental organizations. Department of Finance, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1580/1580-fedemp02-eng.asp Social Policy: Information on the development of social policies relating to health, justice, public safety, culture, heritage, multiculturalism, official languages, sport, labour markets, education, housing programs and women's issues. Department of Justice Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1529/1529-fedemp02-eng.asp Information on Federally Appointed Judges: contains Information on Federally Appointed Judges, including lists of current federally appointed judges, of current and future vacancies, of women judges, of judicial appointments... Farm Credit Canada, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1618/1618-fedemp02-eng.asp Employment Equity Program: Data is collected to provide a comprehensive picture of employees by designated group status (i.e. women, aboriginal persons, persons with a disability and visible minority groups). Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1477/1477-fedemp02-eng.asp Human Security and Human Rights: Records include information on Aboriginal and Circumpolar Affairs; Human Rights; Women's Rights; Human Security Policy including Democracy Promotion and Humanitarian Affairs and Disaster. Health Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1476/1476-fedemp02-eng.asp Women's Health: Health Canada coordinates the implementation of gender-based analysis, reports on the development of gender-sensitive legislation and serves as the focal point for women's health within the federal government. The department also contributes to the understanding of sex/gender health issues over a person's lifespan. Health Canada's ongoing relationships with the provinces, major women's organizations, health researchers and other stakeholders ensures research, policy development and outreach that promotes women's and men's active involvement in their own health and well-being. Human Resources and Skills Development Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1534/1534-fedemp02-eng.asp Employment Benefits and Support Measures: Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada) http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1501/1501-fedemp02-eng.asp Gender-Based Analysis:..INAC's Gender-Based Analysis Policy, INAC's Gender-Based Analysis Guide, national and international conferences, National Aboriginal Women's organizations, funding agreements, committees, meetings, presentations, policy advice National Capital Commission http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1457/1457-fedemp02-eng.asp Future Trek: The selection criteria include: individuals between the ages of 18 and 24, provincial representation, an equal representation of men and women, individuals from different ethnic groups and people, individuals with disabilities and a representation of both anglophones and francophones National Defense http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1486/1486-fedemp02-eng.asp Dress Instructions: Ceremonial; environmental; women personnel; design; officers; other ranks; and special purpose. Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1523/1523-fedemp02-eng.asp General Supports Program: NSERC collects data on the gender of applicants on a voluntary basis only and uses it to promote the increased participation of women in NSERC programs and on NSERC committees (multiple entries) Privy Council Office, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1596/1596-fedemp02-eng.asp Health, Welfare and Social Services... social development and social policy; voluntary organizations; and women's issues. Public Health Agency of Canada Public Service Commission of Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1614/1614-fedemp02-eng.asp Career Consultation and Development, Diversity Management: Senior Levels:...Employment equity designated group members (which include women, visible minorities, Aboriginal peoples and persons with disabilities) at the EX equivalent Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1591/1591-fedemp02-eng.asp Awards Management Information System Joint Initiatives Mentioned in multiple granting program areas Status of Women http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1610/1610-fedemp02-eng.asp (multiple entries) Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1611/1611-fedemp02-eng.asp Diversity Pay Equity Employment Equity for Women Veteran's Affairs Canada http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1539/1539-fedemp02-eng.asp Pensions and Compensation Veterans Review and Appeal Board, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1538/1538-fedemp02-eng.asp Reviews and Appeals Western Economic Diversification Canada, http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1508/1508-fedemp02-eng.asp Access to Capital: Transfer payments in support of this program are made under the authority of the Western Diversification Program, the Community Futures Program, the Women's Enterprise Initiative Loan Fund, the Service Delivery Network Program, and the Loan and Investment Program. Western Canada Business Service Network ________________________________ From: Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> To: civicaccess discuss <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:16:48 PM Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] Open Data & Women I went looking to see what kind of data came out this week in Canada in relation to the 101st Birthday of Women's Day. Not much is the answer, 1 new report and it looks like our media focussed primarily on international data indicators or prepared stories based on storylines coming from elsewhere. I found a few visualizations. The international content was good, and our Open Data UK friends did some nice work as always. I then went looking into some Canadian data portals to see what kind of data were tagged women, that made me sad. So then I went to look at what kind of indicators could be tracked, and put together a fast list of open data ideas. Canada - * Catalyst produced a survey and reported the numbers of women on boards. They wrongfully called their survey a census though! 2011 Catalyst Census: Financial Post 500 Women Board Directors - http://www.catalyst.org/publication/525/2011-catalyst-census-financial-post-500-women-board-directors. G&M story that went with it - Breaking the boardroom gender barrier http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/careers/career-advice/leah-eichler/breaking-the-boardroom-gender-barrier/article2364839/ * Status of Women Canada has some reports (2011 and earlier) that include statistics on a variety of issues that pertain to women - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html and a few other links here http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/index-eng.html. Apparently IWD is for the rural ladies in Canada - but not much on data - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/dates/iwd-jif/index-eng.html * IWD 2012 listed 191 events in Canada - http://internationalwomensday.com/esearch.asp?country=37 (must be a better way to do this!) * The MADGIC blog (https://blogs.library.carleton.ca/roller/themadgicalweb/entry/88_cents_for_the_same) Carleton pointed to this US dataset for IWD - http://narrowthegapp.com/ Visualization: * CBC - IWD indicator visualization - http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/womens-day/ * Vancouver Observer - International Women's Day infographics: women in Canadian politics and media - http://www.vancouverobserver.com/world/canada/2012/03/08/international-womens-day-infographics-women-canadian-politics-and-media * This timeline was interesting: http://www.weareequals.org/iwd/timeline/ International: * World Economic Forum (WEF) - The Global Gender Gap Report 2011 - http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GenderGap_Report_2011.pdf - Canada ranks 18, below the US and just above Latvia. After paying attention to women in the Media in the US for the last 2 weeks, esp. the Sandra Fluke story, I am most distressed that we can rank lower than the US. I know, different ranking system! * The UK Guardian produced some data on women in Office - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/mar/07/women-representation-in-politics-worldwide. The Guardian has an entire news section on the topic - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/women. * The UK Guardian 2011 Women's day post looked at thepay gap - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/mar/08/international-womens-day-pay-gap * The UK Independent produced a list of the 20 best and worst places to be a woman - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-the-best-and-worst-places-to-be-a-woman-7534794.html * Foreign Policy produced a list of Five Surprisingly Good Places to Be a Woman. * This is an odd ranking scheme that did not provide any methodological information nor datasources, weird!- http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2011/09/20/best-and-worst-countries-for-women-the-full-list.html What is in the data portals? I used women as a key word search: * data.gc.ca yielded 6 list pages of data on: abuse, women's shelters & transitional homes, breast cancer, pap smears, BMI, fertility, involvement in crime. Nothing on educational attainment, labour, health, elected in office, immigration, employment, proportion of women as research chairs, etc. (http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=C517024E&xsl=datacataloguesearchrenderer%2Cresult&searchoffset=1&searchdisplaycount=10&databasematch=eform_published&filtername=formtype&formtype=DD116BB0-BB54-41A5-B210-D245C0139CA9&keywords=women&submit=Search). Based on what came up, the sistahs are doing terribly in more ways than one. * opendatabc.ca: 1 data set pertaining to fertility. * Open data City of Ottawa - 0 (women is not a search category) * City of Edmonton Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) * City of Vancouver Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) * City of Toronto Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) * I stopped looking after that! Observation - not much data in these portals to discuss public policy issues with any depth, and not a wide enough of a range of data in the TBS portal and the alphabetical way of organizing the data in the city portals and the minimal # of tags was a surprise. Data ideas: Here are some dataset ideas! * Defining Equity Indicators for Benchmarking Women’s Participation in Science and Engineering Faculties across Canada - http://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/2780/Prometea%20PDF.pdf?sequence=1 * Women's Health Indicators - http://www.womenshealthdata.ca/aboutdirectory/documents/Womenshealthindicators_review_final.pdf. * Women and Elections - http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/women.html * Women in Canada 2010-2011 - A Gender-based Statistical Report - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html * UNPAC Gender Budget Project - http://www.unpac.ca/gender/project.html * WEF report linked above Open Data IDEAS: * Add the proportion of women in office 'how'd they vote' like election apps. * Add sex analysis in budget apps * Hackfests could focus on the ladies for International Women's day * Apps developers could commit to helping a woman's organization out with their skills * Women's orgs need to think of their data needs & think of apps * Open Data portals could promote their services by focussing on the collection & dissemination of data and reports related to special issues, for example, for International Women's day there could have been some energy towards pointing to relevant datasets and reports. It is a way to focus efforts and to promote data and their relevance. It is a way to market the potential for data and the service outside of specialist communities. * If there are data in reports produced by the gov of Canada they should be posted on data.gc.ca, and the metadata should point back to the report. The Status of Women reports for instance are loaded with data but those are not reflected in the TBS portal. * If sex is a data attribute, then the datasets should be tagged accordingly. My search yielded only datasets explicitly tagged w/ women, but women surely appear in other datasets! Also, the preocupations we have about women must be different than what has been tagged, as the results I got were quite sad indicators of the situation for many women. * I am sure there are more! Overall, few datasets, and our data portals demonstrate no thematic focus and the search functions & tagging systems are pretty slim & trim on choice. Cheers t Tracey 613-234-2805 _______________________________________________ CivicAccess-discuss mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss |
That is awesome! Thanks Mark, I was unaware that we could search this way.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Mark Weiler <[hidden email]> wrote: The Access to Information Act requires the federal government to publish classes of records that are held in a government department. It's kinda like a highlevel information catalogue. It's located on www.infosource.gc.ca. Here's a list's of departments info catalogues with the word "women" in it. -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 |
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I think Gina Trapani's project is one that has garnered a lot of
interest south of the border - narrowthegapp.com. It is pretty awesome. dave On 12-03-10 4:45 PM, Mark Weiler wrote: > The Access to Information Act requires the federal government to publish classes of records that are held in a government department. It's kinda like a highlevel information catalogue. It's located on www.infosource.gc.ca. Here's a list's of departments info catalogues with the word "women" in it. > > If you're interested in what people are ordering from these departments, http://www.open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ati-aai-eng.asp > > > Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1563/1563-fedemp02-eng.asp > - National Talent Bank of Farm and Rural Women > > Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1506/1506-fedemp02-eng.asp > - Young Entrepreneur > Development Initiative and the Women in Business Initiative, and the > Business Development Program is the primary funding program. > - Information related to the Atlantic > Investment Partnership, Atlantic Population Strategy, Women in Business > Initiative and the Youth Entrepreneurship Development Initiative. > > Bank of Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1667/1667-fedemp02-eng.asp > > - Employment equity program: employment equity policy and > program. Data are collected to provide a comprehensive picture of Bank > staff by designated groups (e.g., women, aboriginal peoples, persons > with disabilities and members of visible minority groups). > > > Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1568/1568-fedemp02-eng.asp > Employment Equity File: Employment Equity-General; Employment Equity Plan; Persons of Aboriginal Origin; Persons with Disabilities; Women; Visible Minorities; > Employment Equity-Self-Identification Forms. > > > Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1495/1495-fedemp00-eng.asp > Family Violence Initiatives - c) Shelter Enhancement Program (SEP) - forgivable loans to repair, > rehabilitate and improve existing shelters for women, children and youth > > > Canadian Heritage > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1479/1479-fedemp02-eng.asp > > - Aboriginal Peoples' Program:... focuses specifically on the unique challenges faced by Aboriginal women, youth and urban communities with the intent of strengthening Aboriginal cultural identity and participation of Aboriginal Peoples in Canadian > society > > Correctional Services of Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1573/1573-fedemp02-eng.asp > -Reintegration program: Living skills programs, sex offender programs, violence prevention > programs, substance abuse programs, aboriginal Reintegration Programs, > women offender programs, ethno-cultural services, program inventory, > program description, program availability, program standards, > accreditation case files, program evaluation research, staff training > program content, program policy. > - Aboriginal Initiatives: Information on matters relating to the cultural needs of Aboriginal offenders... Aboriginal correctional treatment issues, ..., Aboriginal women offenders > - Women offenders: General information related to meetings, policies, planning, data on > Women Offenders, budget and resource information, communications, > information with respect to various operational and planning committees, institutional and community programs, services and operations, staff > training, staffing, federal women's institutions, provincial > institutions that house federal women, the Arbour Inquiry, reports of > the Auditor General and Canadian Human Rights Commission, etc., > information relating to CSC links to the Elizabeth Fry Society and other non-governmental organizations. > > > Department of Finance, > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1580/1580-fedemp02-eng.asp > Social Policy: Information on the development of social > policies relating to health, justice, public safety, culture, heritage, > multiculturalism, official languages, sport, labour markets, education, > housing programs and women's issues. > > Department of Justice Canada > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1529/1529-fedemp02-eng.asp > Information on Federally Appointed Judges: contains Information on Federally Appointed Judges, including lists of > current federally appointed judges, of current and future vacancies, of > women judges, of judicial appointments... > > > Farm Credit Canada, > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1618/1618-fedemp02-eng.asp > Employment Equity Program: Data is collected to provide a comprehensive picture of employees by > designated group status (i.e. women, aboriginal persons, persons with a > disability and visible minority groups). > > Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1477/1477-fedemp02-eng.asp > Human Security and Human Rights: Records include information on Aboriginal and Circumpolar Affairs; Human Rights; Women's Rights; Human Security Policy including Democracy > Promotion and Humanitarian Affairs and Disaster. > > Health Canada > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1476/1476-fedemp02-eng.asp > > Women's Health: Health Canada coordinates the implementation of gender-based analysis, reports on the development of gender-sensitive legislation and serves as the > focal point for women's health within the federal government. The > department also contributes to the understanding of sex/gender health > issues over a person's lifespan. Health Canada's ongoing relationships > with the provinces, major women's organizations, health researchers and > other stakeholders ensures research, policy development and outreach > that promotes women's and men's active involvement in their own health > and well-being. > > Human Resources and Skills Development Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1534/1534-fedemp02-eng.asp > Employment Benefits and Support Measures: > > > Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development Canada) > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1501/1501-fedemp02-eng.asp > Gender-Based Analysis:..INAC's Gender-Based Analysis Policy, INAC's > Gender-Based Analysis Guide, national and international conferences, > National Aboriginal Women's organizations, funding agreements, > committees, meetings, presentations, policy advice > > National Capital Commission > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1457/1457-fedemp02-eng.asp > Future Trek: The selection criteria include: individuals between the ages of 18 and > 24, provincial representation, an equal representation of men and women, individuals from different ethnic groups and people, individuals with > disabilities and a representation of both anglophones and francophones > > National Defense > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1486/1486-fedemp02-eng.asp > Dress Instructions: Ceremonial; environmental; women personnel; design; officers; other ranks; and special purpose. > > Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1523/1523-fedemp02-eng.asp > General Supports Program: NSERC collects data on the gender of applicants on a voluntary basis > only and uses it to promote the increased participation of women in > NSERC programs and on NSERC committees (multiple entries) > > > Privy Council Office, > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1596/1596-fedemp02-eng.asp > Health, Welfare and Social Services... social development and social policy; voluntary organizations; and women's issues. > > Public Health Agency of Canada > > > Public Service Commission of Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1614/1614-fedemp02-eng.asp > Career Consultation and Development, Diversity Management: Senior Levels:...Employment equity designated group members (which include women, visible minorities, Aboriginal peoples and persons with disabilities) at the EX equivalent > > Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1591/1591-fedemp02-eng.asp > Awards Management Information System > Joint Initiatives > Mentioned in multiple granting program areas > Status of Women > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1610/1610-fedemp02-eng.asp > (multiple entries) > > Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1611/1611-fedemp02-eng.asp > Diversity > Pay Equity > Employment Equity for Women > > > Veteran's Affairs Canada > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1539/1539-fedemp02-eng.asp > > Pensions and Compensation > > Veterans Review and Appeal Board, > > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1538/1538-fedemp02-eng.asp > Reviews and Appeals > > > Western Economic Diversification Canada, > http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1508/1508-fedemp02-eng.asp > Access to Capital: Transfer payments in support of this program are made under the > authority of the Western Diversification Program, the Community Futures > Program, the Women's Enterprise Initiative Loan Fund, the Service > Delivery Network Program, and the Loan and Investment Program. > Western Canada Business Service Network > > > ________________________________ > From: Tracey P. Lauriault<[hidden email]> > To: civicaccess discuss<[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:16:48 PM > Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] Open Data& Women > > > I went looking to see what kind of data came out this week in Canada in relation to the 101st Birthday of Women's Day. Not much is the answer, 1 new report and it looks like our media focussed primarily on international data indicators or prepared stories based on storylines coming from elsewhere. I found a few visualizations. The international content was good, and our Open Data UK friends did some nice work as always. I then went looking into some Canadian data portals to see what kind of data were tagged women, that made me sad. So then I went to look at what kind of indicators could be tracked, and put together a fast list of open data ideas. > > Canada - > * Catalyst produced a survey and reported the numbers of women on boards. They wrongfully called their survey a census though! 2011 Catalyst Census: Financial Post 500 Women Board Directors - http://www.catalyst.org/publication/525/2011-catalyst-census-financial-post-500-women-board-directors. G&M story that went with it - Breaking the boardroom gender barrier http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/careers/career-advice/leah-eichler/breaking-the-boardroom-gender-barrier/article2364839/ > * Status of Women Canada has some reports (2011 and earlier) that include statistics on a variety of issues that pertain to women - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html and a few other links here http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/index-eng.html. Apparently IWD is for the rural ladies in Canada - but not much on data - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/dates/iwd-jif/index-eng.html > * IWD 2012 listed 191 events in Canada - http://internationalwomensday.com/esearch.asp?country=37 (must be a better way to do this!) > * The MADGIC blog (https://blogs.library.carleton.ca/roller/themadgicalweb/entry/88_cents_for_the_same) Carleton pointed to this US dataset for IWD - http://narrowthegapp.com/ > Visualization: > * CBC - IWD indicator visualization - http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/womens-day/ > * Vancouver Observer - International Women's Day infographics: women in Canadian politics and media - http://www.vancouverobserver.com/world/canada/2012/03/08/international-womens-day-infographics-women-canadian-politics-and-media > * This timeline was interesting: http://www.weareequals.org/iwd/timeline/ > International: > * World Economic Forum (WEF) - The Global Gender Gap Report 2011 - http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GenderGap_Report_2011.pdf - Canada ranks 18, below the US and just above Latvia. After paying attention to women in the Media in the US for the last 2 weeks, esp. the Sandra Fluke story, I am most distressed that we can rank lower than the US. I know, different ranking system! > * The UK Guardian produced some data on women in Office - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/mar/07/women-representation-in-politics-worldwide. The Guardian has an entire news section on the topic - http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/women. > * The UK Guardian 2011 Women's day post looked at thepay gap - http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/mar/08/international-womens-day-pay-gap > * The UK Independent produced a list of the 20 best and worst places to be a woman - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-the-best-and-worst-places-to-be-a-woman-7534794.html > * Foreign Policy produced a list of Five Surprisingly Good Places to Be a Woman. > * This is an odd ranking scheme that did not provide any methodological information nor datasources, weird!- http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2011/09/20/best-and-worst-countries-for-women-the-full-list.html > What is in the data portals? I used women as a key word search: > * data.gc.ca yielded 6 list pages of data on: abuse, women's shelters& transitional homes, breast cancer, pap smears, BMI, fertility, involvement in crime. Nothing on educational attainment, labour, health, elected in office, immigration, employment, proportion of women as research chairs, etc. (http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=C517024E&xsl=datacataloguesearchrenderer%2Cresult&searchoffset=1&searchdisplaycount=10&databasematch=eform_published&filtername=formtype&formtype=DD116BB0-BB54-41A5-B210-D245C0139CA9&keywords=women&submit=Search). Based on what came up, the sistahs are doing terribly in more ways than one. > * opendatabc.ca: 1 data set pertaining to fertility. > * Open data City of Ottawa - 0 (women is not a search category) > * City of Edmonton Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) > * City of Vancouver Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) > * City of Toronto Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) > * I stopped looking after that! Observation - not much data in these portals to discuss public policy issues with any depth, and not a wide enough of a range of data in the TBS portal and the alphabetical way of organizing the data in the city portals and the minimal # of tags was a surprise. > Data ideas: Here are some dataset ideas! > * Defining Equity Indicators for Benchmarking Women’s Participation in Science and Engineering Faculties across Canada - http://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/2780/Prometea%20PDF.pdf?sequence=1 > * Women's Health Indicators - http://www.womenshealthdata.ca/aboutdirectory/documents/Womenshealthindicators_review_final.pdf. > * Women and Elections - http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/women.html > * Women in Canada 2010-2011 - A Gender-based Statistical Report - http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html > * UNPAC Gender Budget Project - http://www.unpac.ca/gender/project.html > * WEF report linked above > Open Data IDEAS: > * Add the proportion of women in office 'how'd they vote' like election apps. > * Add sex analysis in budget apps > * Hackfests could focus on the ladies for International Women's day > * Apps developers could commit to helping a woman's organization out with their skills > * Women's orgs need to think of their data needs& think of apps > * Open Data portals could promote their services by focussing on the collection& dissemination of data and reports related to special issues, for example, for International Women's day there could have been some energy towards pointing to relevant datasets and reports. It is a way to focus efforts and to promote data and their relevance. It is a way to market the potential for data and the service outside of specialist communities. > * If there are data in reports produced by the gov of Canada they should be posted on data.gc.ca, and the metadata should point back to the report. The Status of Women reports for instance are loaded with data but those are not reflected in the TBS portal. > * If sex is a data attribute, then the datasets should be tagged accordingly. My search yielded only datasets explicitly tagged w/ women, but women surely appear in other datasets! Also, the preocupations we have about women must be different than what has been tagged, as the results I got were quite sad indicators of the situation for many women. > * I am sure there are more! > Overall, few datasets, and our data portals demonstrate no thematic focus and the search functions& tagging systems are pretty slim& trim on choice. > > Cheers > t > > Tracey > 613-234-2805 > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss |
After seeing Gina Trapani's app earlier, I've been wanting to do something similar with data from CANSIM (table 282-0069) and something like this protovis library (
http://mbostock.github.com/protovis/ex/jobs.html ).
I find myself too swamped to push it much at the moment. It would be amazing if someone took this and ran with it though.
Andrew
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM, David Eaves <[hidden email]> wrote: I think Gina Trapani's project is one that has garnered a lot of interest south of the border - narrowthegapp.com. |
That is a cool tool!
One of the things this tool shows, is how biased the Census was, as women have always worked, institutions just never bothered to count or value that work. This is the same situation currently in developing countries where women do most of the work, but subsistence labour which feeds and houses families is not counted. Counting women's work was part of the reasoning for including the question on upaid work in the census, it was to track the contributions women make to caring for children, the elderly, home care and a million other things that keep society functionining but is unpaid. This question was just removed from the census all together. The argument was that it was an under-utilized variable, however, it was only available if people paid for it, and since it is tracking unpaid work...see the circularity! It was also a variable that REAL women did not like very much and it was the question that apparently yielded the most confusion. This NFB film is really interesting, It used to be shown a few months before a census is taken: http://blog.nfb.ca/2010/03/08/guest-post-authorentrepreneur-tara-hunt-on-the-influence-of-marilyn-waring/ On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Andrew Dyck <[hidden email]> wrote: > After seeing Gina Trapani's app earlier, I've been wanting to do something > similar with data from CANSIM (table 282-0069) and something like this > protovis library ( http://mbostock.github.com/protovis/ex/jobs.html ). > > I find myself too swamped to push it much at the moment. It would be amazing > if someone took this and ran with it though. > > Andrew > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM, David Eaves <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I think Gina Trapani's project is one that has garnered a lot of interest >> south of the border - narrowthegapp.com. >> >> It is pretty awesome. >> >> dave >> >> >> On 12-03-10 4:45 PM, Mark Weiler wrote: >>> >>> The Access to Information Act requires the federal government to publish >>> classes of records that are held in a government department. It's kinda >>> like a highlevel information catalogue. It's located on >>> www.infosource.gc.ca. Here's a list's of departments info catalogues with >>> the word "women" in it. >>> >>> If you're interested in what people are ordering from these departments, >>> http://www.open.gc.ca/open-ouvert/ati-aai-eng.asp >>> >>> >>> Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1563/1563-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> - National Talent Bank of Farm and Rural Women >>> >>> Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1506/1506-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> - Young Entrepreneur >>> Development Initiative and the Women in Business Initiative, and the >>> Business Development Program is the primary funding program. >>> - Information related to the Atlantic >>> Investment Partnership, Atlantic Population Strategy, Women in Business >>> Initiative and the Youth Entrepreneurship Development Initiative. >>> >>> Bank of Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1667/1667-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> >>> - Employment equity program: employment equity policy and >>> program. Data are collected to provide a comprehensive picture of Bank >>> staff by designated groups (e.g., women, aboriginal peoples, persons >>> with disabilities and members of visible minority groups). >>> >>> >>> Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1568/1568-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Employment Equity File: Employment Equity-General; Employment Equity >>> Plan; Persons of Aboriginal Origin; Persons with Disabilities; Women; >>> Visible Minorities; >>> Employment Equity-Self-Identification Forms. >>> >>> >>> Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1495/1495-fedemp00-eng.asp >>> Family Violence Initiatives - c) Shelter Enhancement Program (SEP) - >>> forgivable loans to repair, >>> rehabilitate and improve existing shelters for women, children and youth >>> >>> >>> Canadian Heritage http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1479/1479-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> >>> - Aboriginal Peoples' Program:... focuses specifically on the unique >>> challenges faced by Aboriginal women, youth and urban communities with the >>> intent of strengthening Aboriginal cultural identity and participation of >>> Aboriginal Peoples in Canadian >>> society >>> >>> Correctional Services of Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1573/1573-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> -Reintegration program: Living skills programs, sex offender programs, >>> violence prevention >>> programs, substance abuse programs, aboriginal Reintegration Programs, >>> women offender programs, ethno-cultural services, program inventory, >>> program description, program availability, program standards, >>> accreditation case files, program evaluation research, staff training >>> program content, program policy. >>> - Aboriginal Initiatives: Information on matters relating to the cultural >>> needs of Aboriginal offenders... Aboriginal correctional treatment issues, >>> ..., Aboriginal women offenders >>> - Women offenders: General information related to meetings, policies, >>> planning, data on >>> Women Offenders, budget and resource information, communications, >>> information with respect to various operational and planning committees, >>> institutional and community programs, services and operations, staff >>> training, staffing, federal women's institutions, provincial >>> institutions that house federal women, the Arbour Inquiry, reports of >>> the Auditor General and Canadian Human Rights Commission, etc., >>> information relating to CSC links to the Elizabeth Fry Society and other >>> non-governmental organizations. >>> >>> >>> Department of Finance, >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1580/1580-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Social Policy: Information on the development of social >>> policies relating to health, justice, public safety, culture, heritage, >>> multiculturalism, official languages, sport, labour markets, education, >>> housing programs and women's issues. >>> >>> Department of Justice Canada >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1529/1529-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Information on Federally Appointed Judges: contains Information on >>> Federally Appointed Judges, including lists of >>> current federally appointed judges, of current and future vacancies, of >>> women judges, of judicial appointments... >>> >>> >>> Farm Credit Canada, >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1618/1618-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Employment Equity Program: Data is collected to provide a comprehensive >>> picture of employees by >>> designated group status (i.e. women, aboriginal persons, persons with a >>> disability and visible minority groups). >>> >>> Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1477/1477-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Human Security and Human Rights: Records include information on >>> Aboriginal and Circumpolar Affairs; Human Rights; Women's Rights; Human >>> Security Policy including Democracy >>> Promotion and Humanitarian Affairs and Disaster. >>> >>> Health Canada >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1476/1476-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> >>> Women's Health: Health Canada coordinates the implementation of >>> gender-based analysis, reports on the development of gender-sensitive >>> legislation and serves as the >>> focal point for women's health within the federal government. The >>> department also contributes to the understanding of sex/gender health >>> issues over a person's lifespan. Health Canada's ongoing relationships >>> with the provinces, major women's organizations, health researchers and >>> other stakeholders ensures research, policy development and outreach >>> that promotes women's and men's active involvement in their own health >>> and well-being. >>> >>> Human Resources and Skills Development Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1534/1534-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Employment Benefits and Support Measures: >>> >>> >>> Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (Aboriginal Affairs and Northern >>> Development Canada) >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1501/1501-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Gender-Based Analysis:..INAC's Gender-Based Analysis Policy, INAC's >>> Gender-Based Analysis Guide, national and international conferences, >>> National Aboriginal Women's organizations, funding agreements, >>> committees, meetings, presentations, policy advice >>> >>> National Capital Commission >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1457/1457-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Future Trek: The selection criteria include: individuals between the ages >>> of 18 and >>> 24, provincial representation, an equal representation of men and women, >>> individuals from different ethnic groups and people, individuals with >>> disabilities and a representation of both anglophones and francophones >>> >>> National Defense http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1486/1486-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Dress Instructions: Ceremonial; environmental; women personnel; design; >>> officers; other ranks; and special purpose. >>> >>> Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1523/1523-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> General Supports Program: NSERC collects data on the gender of applicants >>> on a voluntary basis >>> only and uses it to promote the increased participation of women in >>> NSERC programs and on NSERC committees (multiple entries) >>> >>> >>> Privy Council Office, >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1596/1596-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Health, Welfare and Social Services... social development and social >>> policy; voluntary organizations; and women's issues. >>> >>> Public Health Agency of Canada >>> >>> >>> Public Service Commission of Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1614/1614-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Career Consultation and Development, Diversity Management: Senior >>> Levels:...Employment equity designated group members (which include women, >>> visible minorities, Aboriginal peoples and persons with disabilities) at the >>> EX equivalent >>> >>> Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1591/1591-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Awards Management Information System >>> Joint Initiatives >>> Mentioned in multiple granting program areas >>> Status of Women >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1610/1610-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> (multiple entries) >>> >>> Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1611/1611-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Diversity >>> Pay Equity >>> Employment Equity for Women >>> >>> >>> Veteran's Affairs Canada >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1539/1539-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> >>> Pensions and Compensation >>> >>> Veterans Review and Appeal Board, >>> >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1538/1538-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Reviews and Appeals >>> >>> >>> Western Economic Diversification Canada, >>> http://infosource.gc.ca/inst/1508/1508-fedemp02-eng.asp >>> Access to Capital: Transfer payments in support of this program are made >>> under the >>> authority of the Western Diversification Program, the Community Futures >>> Program, the Women's Enterprise Initiative Loan Fund, the Service >>> Delivery Network Program, and the Loan and Investment Program. >>> Western Canada Business Service Network >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Tracey P. Lauriault<[hidden email]> >>> To: civicaccess discuss<[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 2:16:48 PM >>> Subject: [CivicAccess-discuss] Open Data& Women >>> >>> >>> >>> I went looking to see what kind of data came out this week in Canada in >>> relation to the 101st Birthday of Women's Day. Not much is the answer, 1 >>> new report and it looks like our media focussed primarily on international >>> data indicators or prepared stories based on storylines coming from >>> elsewhere. I found a few visualizations. The international content was >>> good, and our Open Data UK friends did some nice work as always. I then went >>> looking into some Canadian data portals to see what kind of data were tagged >>> women, that made me sad. So then I went to look at what kind of indicators >>> could be tracked, and put together a fast list of open data ideas. >>> >>> Canada - >>> * Catalyst produced a survey and reported the numbers of women on >>> boards. They wrongfully called their survey a census though! 2011 Catalyst >>> Census: Financial Post 500 Women Board Directors - >>> http://www.catalyst.org/publication/525/2011-catalyst-census-financial-post-500-women-board-directors. >>> G&M story that went with it - Breaking the boardroom gender barrier >>> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/careers/career-advice/leah-eichler/breaking-the-boardroom-gender-barrier/article2364839/ >>> * Status of Women Canada has some reports (2011 and earlier) that >>> include statistics on a variety of issues that pertain to women - >>> http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html and a few >>> other links here http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/index-eng.html. >>> Apparently IWD is for the rural ladies in Canada - but not much on data - >>> http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/dates/iwd-jif/index-eng.html >>> * IWD 2012 listed 191 events in Canada - >>> http://internationalwomensday.com/esearch.asp?country=37 (must be a better >>> way to do this!) >>> * The MADGIC blog >>> (https://blogs.library.carleton.ca/roller/themadgicalweb/entry/88_cents_for_the_same) >>> Carleton pointed to this US dataset for IWD - http://narrowthegapp.com/ >>> Visualization: >>> * CBC - IWD indicator visualization - >>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/womens-day/ >>> * Vancouver Observer - International Women's Day infographics: women >>> in Canadian politics and media - >>> http://www.vancouverobserver.com/world/canada/2012/03/08/international-womens-day-infographics-women-canadian-politics-and-media >>> * This timeline was interesting: >>> http://www.weareequals.org/iwd/timeline/ >>> International: >>> * World Economic Forum (WEF) - The Global Gender Gap Report 2011 - >>> http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GenderGap_Report_2011.pdf - Canada ranks >>> 18, below the US and just above Latvia. After paying attention to women in >>> the Media in the US for the last 2 weeks, esp. the Sandra Fluke story, I am >>> most distressed that we can rank lower than the US. I know, different >>> ranking system! >>> * The UK Guardian produced some data on women in Office - >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/mar/07/women-representation-in-politics-worldwide. >>> The Guardian has an entire news section on the topic - >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/women. >>> * The UK Guardian 2011 Women's day post looked at thepay gap - >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/mar/08/international-womens-day-pay-gap >>> * The UK Independent produced a list of the 20 best and worst places >>> to be a woman - >>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/revealed-the-best-and-worst-places-to-be-a-woman-7534794.html >>> * Foreign Policy produced a list of Five Surprisingly Good Places to >>> Be a Woman. * This is an odd ranking scheme that did not provide any >>> methodological information nor datasources, weird!- >>> http://www.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2011/09/20/best-and-worst-countries-for-women-the-full-list.html >>> What is in the data portals? I used women as a key word search: >>> * data.gc.ca yielded 6 list pages of data on: abuse, women's >>> shelters& transitional homes, breast cancer, pap smears, BMI, fertility, >>> involvement in crime. Nothing on educational attainment, labour, health, >>> elected in office, immigration, employment, proportion of women as research >>> chairs, etc. >>> (http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&n=C517024E&xsl=datacataloguesearchrenderer%2Cresult&searchoffset=1&searchdisplaycount=10&databasematch=eform_published&filtername=formtype&formtype=DD116BB0-BB54-41A5-B210-D245C0139CA9&keywords=women&submit=Search). >>> Based on what came up, the sistahs are doing terribly in more ways than >>> one. >>> >>> * opendatabc.ca: 1 data set pertaining to fertility. * Open >>> data City of Ottawa - 0 (women is not a search category) >>> * City of Edmonton Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) >>> * City of Vancouver Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) >>> * City of Toronto Open Data - 0 (women is not a search category) >>> * I stopped looking after that! Observation - not much data in these >>> portals to discuss public policy issues with any depth, and not a wide >>> enough of a range of data in the TBS portal and the alphabetical way of >>> organizing the data in the city portals and the minimal # of tags was a >>> surprise. >>> Data ideas: Here are some dataset ideas! >>> * Defining Equity Indicators for Benchmarking Women’s Participation >>> in Science and Engineering Faculties across Canada - >>> http://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/2780/Prometea%20PDF.pdf?sequence=1 >>> * Women's Health Indicators - >>> http://www.womenshealthdata.ca/aboutdirectory/documents/Womenshealthindicators_review_final.pdf. >>> * Women and Elections - http://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/women.html >>> * Women in Canada 2010-2011 - A Gender-based Statistical Report - >>> http://www.swc-cfc.gc.ca/rc-cr/stat/wic-fac-1011/index-eng.html >>> * UNPAC Gender Budget Project - >>> http://www.unpac.ca/gender/project.html >>> * WEF report linked above >>> Open Data IDEAS: >>> * Add the proportion of women in office 'how'd they vote' like >>> election apps. >>> * Add sex analysis in budget apps >>> * Hackfests could focus on the ladies for International Women's day >>> * Apps developers could commit to helping a woman's organization out >>> with their skills >>> * Women's orgs need to think of their data needs& think of apps >>> * Open Data portals could promote their services by focussing on the >>> collection& dissemination of data and reports related to special issues, >>> for example, for International Women's day there could have been some energy >>> towards pointing to relevant datasets and reports. It is a way to focus >>> efforts and to promote data and their relevance. It is a way to market the >>> potential for data and the service outside of specialist communities. >>> >>> * If there are data in reports produced by the gov of Canada they >>> should be posted on data.gc.ca, and the metadata should point back to the >>> report. The Status of Women reports for instance are loaded with data but >>> those are not reflected in the TBS portal. >>> * If sex is a data attribute, then the datasets should be tagged >>> accordingly. My search yielded only datasets explicitly tagged w/ women, >>> but women surely appear in other datasets! Also, the preocupations we have >>> about women must be different than what has been tagged, as the results I >>> got were quite sad indicators of the situation for many women. >>> * I am sure there are more! >>> Overall, few datasets, and our data portals demonstrate no thematic focus >>> and the search functions& tagging systems are pretty slim& trim on choice. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> t >>> >>> Tracey >>> 613-234-2805 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -- Tracey P. 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