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Jonathan Gray
Hi all,

I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:

http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada

It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
over it to check for completeness and accuracy.

Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
think there are a few links here which are not yet added:

http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/

Anyone interested?

All the best,

Jonathan

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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

Alex Lougheed
Howdy,

There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region, license, and URL:


I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD API is out in beta.

A


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:

http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada

It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
over it to check for completeness and accuracy.

Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
think there are a few links here which are not yet added:

http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/

Anyone interested?

All the best,

Jonathan

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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

Jonathan Gray
Thanks Alex!

I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
Group on Open Government Data [1].

Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
the world [2].

Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
this yet.

The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
http://datacatalogs.org/about

The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
datasets from around the world.

It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
(http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!

All the best,

Jonathan

[1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
[2] see http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
[3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Howdy,
> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
> license, and URL:
> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
> API is out in beta.
> A
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>
>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>
>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>
>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>
>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>
>> Anyone interested?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Gray
>>
>> Community Coordinator
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://www.okfn.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
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>
>
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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

James McKinney
Jonathan,

I was one of the contributors to that OKF spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and updated/removed incorrect listings.

The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org. It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and should be removed.)

How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as I have no idea what the process is. Also, how does one add new catalogs and add catalogs to groups? Anyway, you are missing:


Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.

Better naming conventions would go a long way towards scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?

See you at OGD Camp!

James

On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:

Thanks Alex!

I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
Group on Open Government Data [1].

Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
the world [2].

Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
this yet.

The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
http://datacatalogs.org/about

The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
datasets from around the world.

It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
(http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!

All the best,

Jonathan

[1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
[2] see http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
[3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
Howdy,
There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
license, and URL:
http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
API is out in beta.
A

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
wrote:

Hi all,

I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:

http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada

It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
over it to check for completeness and accuracy.

Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
think there are a few links here which are not yet added:

http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/

Anyone interested?

All the best,

Jonathan

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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

Jonathan Gray
Hi James,

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, James McKinney
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> I was one of the contributors to that OKF

Indeed you were! :-)

> spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with
> the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't
> filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and
> updated/removed incorrect listings.

There was also this one from CTIC and a few more:

http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/

We've been working with them and with others to have an intuitive way
to browse these and to plug in to a bunch of existing work on data
catalog interoperability (e.g. DCAT, federation and harvesting
mechanisms between different open source data hubs). Hence the plan
for datacatalogs.org.

> The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org.
> It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It
> also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and
> should be removed.)
> How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the
> changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from
> investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as
> I have no idea what the process is.

If you let me know your username I'll add you as an admin!

datacatalogs.org is intended to be used by numerous official
institutions to maintain source lists, so we wanted to have the
ability for curation and editorial - as well as enabling anyone to
edit. Hence anyone can make edits, but they have to be approved by a
moderator before they show up on the site:

http://ckan.org/2011/06/20/moderated-edits/

My post to this list was soliciting for people who might be interested
in curating the Canadian list of open data catalogs.

> Also, how does one add new catalogs and
> add catalogs to groups?

If we make you an admin, all will be revealed. ;-)

We could turn off moderation, but we also want government people to be
able use it to maintain official lists (rather than rolling their own
on an official website) - so some degree of moderation was a
requirement.

Fantastic! These are now added: http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada

> Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not
> belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.

Oops! I suspect these were inherited from the CTIC import. Zapped them both.

> Better naming conventions would go a long way towards
> scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words
> "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?

We're trying to use the official name of the data catalog wherever
possible. E.g. saying 'data.gov.uk' rather than 'UK data catalog' or
even just 'UK'. We wanted to respect the variation in naming
conventions, so - e.g. - when someone looks for 'DataGM' (which is the
name of the open data portal for Manchester, UK) they find it.

We have metadata on language, location, country, metadata license, and
a few other things.

We're excited about enabling a whole bunch of geospatial features very soon!

http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-discuss/2011-September/001714.html

> See you at OGD Camp!

Look forward to it! ;-)

All the best,

Jonathan



> James
> On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
> Thanks Alex!
>
> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>
> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
> the world [2].
>
> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
> this yet.
>
> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>
> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
> datasets from around the world.
>
> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
> [2] see
> http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
> [3]
> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>
> license, and URL:
>
> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>
> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>
> API is out in beta.
>
> A
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>
> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>
> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>
> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>
> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>
> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>
> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> --
>
> Jonathan Gray
>
> Community Coordinator
>
> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>
> http://www.okfn.org
>
> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>
> [hidden email]
>
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>
> [hidden email]
>
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan Gray
>
> Community Coordinator
> The Open Knowledge Foundation
> http://www.okfn.org
>
> http://twitter.com/jwyg
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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David Eaves
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Alex (and everyone!)

I say work where ever you think the tool is most effective. If that is
at datacatalogs.org then do it there, but if it is at Buzzdata, do it there.

I think claims to be the canonical place where the community has agreed
to work are problematic and counter productive. If people can't work in
lots of different places, then we've got big, big problems.

More importantly, it is easy to export the data out of buzz and
datacatalogs (i believe) so it should be easy to pull in the work from
other platforms.

I feel like there is a weird battle about platforms here and personally
believe it needs to not be based on who convened who, but on what people
find useful to their needs.

David Eaves

On 11-10-14 12:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:

> Thanks Alex!
>
> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>
> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
> the world [2].
>
> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
> this yet.
>
> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>
> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
> datasets from around the world.
>
> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
> [2] see http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
> [3] http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> Howdy,
>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>> license, and URL:
>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>> API is out in beta.
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray<[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>
>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>
>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>
>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>
>>> Anyone interested?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>
>>> Community Coordinator
>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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James McKinney
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I think if a representative from the data hub steps forward, then the moderated edits model works. For those data hubs that are "orphaned", I think unmoderated edits may be better for the community. Anyway, something to consider.

I'd be happy to help curate the Canadian list of data hubs. My username is jpmckinney :)

Regarding David's point: Buzzdata has been great for working with others to put together a well-thought and nearly-complete CSV list of data catalogs. However, Buzzdata's mission is not to curate data catalogs and its platform supports the curation of one but is not specifically designed for the purpose. datacatalogs.org, on the other hand, does have this mission and is specifically designed for the purpose. So I see some value in choosing to perfect datacatalogs.org over other options. I don't think there's any sort of battle. For people who want to find information about data catalogs, what's important is: correctness, completeness, ease of use. datacatalogs.org is trying to do this, in a way that Buzzdata and others are not (you can't search inside Buzzdata's datasets without downloading them, for example). The problem with every comprehensive list so far is that it eventually goes stale. Based on the about page at datacatalogs.org, it looks like its authors have convinced all the other list-makers (ePSIplatform, CivicCommons, CTIC, OKF, etc.) to work together on one list. Consolidation is a good thing in this case.

Regarding what name to use for data catalogs, I'd be inclined to put the official name in the description, and a more standard name in the title. We'd have to do a survey to know, but my guess is most people know what jurisdiction they are interested in, and fewer know the local name of that jurisdiction's catalog. Oddly, the page now states that there are 18 catalogs in the group, but it only lists 17 (it is missing Vancouver). Also, North Vancouver seems not to have been added.

On 2011-10-14, at 4:59 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, James McKinney
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I was one of the contributors to that OKF
>
> Indeed you were! :-)
>
>> spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with
>> the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't
>> filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and
>> updated/removed incorrect listings.
>
> There was also this one from CTIC and a few more:
>
> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/
>
> We've been working with them and with others to have an intuitive way
> to browse these and to plug in to a bunch of existing work on data
> catalog interoperability (e.g. DCAT, federation and harvesting
> mechanisms between different open source data hubs). Hence the plan
> for datacatalogs.org.
>
>> The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org.
>> It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It
>> also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and
>> should be removed.)
>> How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the
>> changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from
>> investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as
>> I have no idea what the process is.
>
> If you let me know your username I'll add you as an admin!
>
> datacatalogs.org is intended to be used by numerous official
> institutions to maintain source lists, so we wanted to have the
> ability for curation and editorial - as well as enabling anyone to
> edit. Hence anyone can make edits, but they have to be approved by a
> moderator before they show up on the site:
>
> http://ckan.org/2011/06/20/moderated-edits/
>
> My post to this list was soliciting for people who might be interested
> in curating the Canadian list of open data catalogs.
>
>> Also, how does one add new catalogs and
>> add catalogs to groups?
>
> If we make you an admin, all will be revealed. ;-)
>
> We could turn off moderation, but we also want government people to be
> able use it to maintain official lists (rather than rolling their own
> on an official website) - so some degree of moderation was a
> requirement.
>
>> Anyway, you are missing:
>> Ottawa http://www.ottawa.ca/online_services/opendata/index_en.html
>> North Vancouver http://geoweb.dnv.org/
>> Surrey http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx
>> British Columbia http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/
>> Mississauga http://www.mississauga.ca/data
>> Niagara Falls http://www.niagarafalls.ca/services/open/default.aspx
>> Prince George
>> http://princegeorge.ca/cityservices/online/odc/Pages/default.aspx
>> Hamilton http://www.hamilton.ca/ProjectsInitiatives/OpenData/
>> Burlington http://cms.burlington.ca/Page7429.aspx
>> Windsor http://www.citywindsor.ca/003713.asp
>
> Fantastic! These are now added: http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>
>> Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not
>> belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.
>
> Oops! I suspect these were inherited from the CTIC import. Zapped them both.
>
>> Better naming conventions would go a long way towards
>> scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words
>> "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?
>
> We're trying to use the official name of the data catalog wherever
> possible. E.g. saying 'data.gov.uk' rather than 'UK data catalog' or
> even just 'UK'. We wanted to respect the variation in naming
> conventions, so - e.g. - when someone looks for 'DataGM' (which is the
> name of the open data portal for Manchester, UK) they find it.
>
> We have metadata on language, location, country, metadata license, and
> a few other things.
>
> We're excited about enabling a whole bunch of geospatial features very soon!
>
> http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-discuss/2011-September/001714.html
>
>> See you at OGD Camp!
>
> Look forward to it! ;-)
>
> All the best,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>> James
>> On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alex!
>>
>> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
>> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
>> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>>
>> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
>> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
>> the world [2].
>>
>> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
>> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
>> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
>> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
>> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
>> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
>> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
>> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
>> this yet.
>>
>> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
>> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
>> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>>
>> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
>> datasets from around the world.
>>
>> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
>> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
>> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
>> [2] see
>> http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
>> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
>> [3]
>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>>
>> license, and URL:
>>
>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>>
>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>>
>> API is out in beta.
>>
>> A
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>
>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>
>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>
>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>
>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>
>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>
>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>
>> Anyone interested?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> --
>>
>> Jonathan Gray
>>
>> Community Coordinator
>>
>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>
>> http://www.okfn.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://www.okfn.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
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>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

Tracey P. Lauriault
I like your thinking James!

I keep datalibre just because it is a local canadian one and am happy
to add to the oknf one with you as well.

I think there are 20 though in Canada, plus the feds and BC.  I'll
check more carefully tomorrow.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 9:48 PM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I think if a representative from the data hub steps forward, then the moderated edits model works. For those data hubs that are "orphaned", I think unmoderated edits may be better for the community. Anyway, something to consider.
>
> I'd be happy to help curate the Canadian list of data hubs. My username is jpmckinney :)
>
> Regarding David's point: Buzzdata has been great for working with others to put together a well-thought and nearly-complete CSV list of data catalogs. However, Buzzdata's mission is not to curate data catalogs and its platform supports the curation of one but is not specifically designed for the purpose. datacatalogs.org, on the other hand, does have this mission and is specifically designed for the purpose. So I see some value in choosing to perfect datacatalogs.org over other options. I don't think there's any sort of battle. For people who want to find information about data catalogs, what's important is: correctness, completeness, ease of use. datacatalogs.org is trying to do this, in a way that Buzzdata and others are not (you can't search inside Buzzdata's datasets without downloading them, for example). The problem with every comprehensive list so far is that it eventually goes stale. Based on the about page at datacatalogs.org, it looks like its authors have convinced
>  all the other list-makers (ePSIplatform, CivicCommons, CTIC, OKF, etc.) to work together on one list. Consolidation is a good thing in this case.
>
> Regarding what name to use for data catalogs, I'd be inclined to put the official name in the description, and a more standard name in the title. We'd have to do a survey to know, but my guess is most people know what jurisdiction they are interested in, and fewer know the local name of that jurisdiction's catalog. Oddly, the page now states that there are 18 catalogs in the group, but it only lists 17 (it is missing Vancouver). Also, North Vancouver seems not to have been added.
>
> On 2011-10-14, at 4:59 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, James McKinney
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I was one of the contributors to that OKF
>>
>> Indeed you were! :-)
>>
>>> spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with
>>> the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't
>>> filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and
>>> updated/removed incorrect listings.
>>
>> There was also this one from CTIC and a few more:
>>
>> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/
>>
>> We've been working with them and with others to have an intuitive way
>> to browse these and to plug in to a bunch of existing work on data
>> catalog interoperability (e.g. DCAT, federation and harvesting
>> mechanisms between different open source data hubs). Hence the plan
>> for datacatalogs.org.
>>
>>> The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org.
>>> It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It
>>> also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and
>>> should be removed.)
>>> How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the
>>> changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from
>>> investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as
>>> I have no idea what the process is.
>>
>> If you let me know your username I'll add you as an admin!
>>
>> datacatalogs.org is intended to be used by numerous official
>> institutions to maintain source lists, so we wanted to have the
>> ability for curation and editorial - as well as enabling anyone to
>> edit. Hence anyone can make edits, but they have to be approved by a
>> moderator before they show up on the site:
>>
>> http://ckan.org/2011/06/20/moderated-edits/
>>
>> My post to this list was soliciting for people who might be interested
>> in curating the Canadian list of open data catalogs.
>>
>>> Also, how does one add new catalogs and
>>> add catalogs to groups?
>>
>> If we make you an admin, all will be revealed. ;-)
>>
>> We could turn off moderation, but we also want government people to be
>> able use it to maintain official lists (rather than rolling their own
>> on an official website) - so some degree of moderation was a
>> requirement.
>>
>>> Anyway, you are missing:
>>> Ottawa http://www.ottawa.ca/online_services/opendata/index_en.html
>>> North Vancouver http://geoweb.dnv.org/
>>> Surrey http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx
>>> British Columbia http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/
>>> Mississauga http://www.mississauga.ca/data
>>> Niagara Falls http://www.niagarafalls.ca/services/open/default.aspx
>>> Prince George
>>> http://princegeorge.ca/cityservices/online/odc/Pages/default.aspx
>>> Hamilton http://www.hamilton.ca/ProjectsInitiatives/OpenData/
>>> Burlington http://cms.burlington.ca/Page7429.aspx
>>> Windsor http://www.citywindsor.ca/003713.asp
>>
>> Fantastic! These are now added: http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>
>>> Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not
>>> belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.
>>
>> Oops! I suspect these were inherited from the CTIC import. Zapped them both.
>>
>>> Better naming conventions would go a long way towards
>>> scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words
>>> "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?
>>
>> We're trying to use the official name of the data catalog wherever
>> possible. E.g. saying 'data.gov.uk' rather than 'UK data catalog' or
>> even just 'UK'. We wanted to respect the variation in naming
>> conventions, so - e.g. - when someone looks for 'DataGM' (which is the
>> name of the open data portal for Manchester, UK) they find it.
>>
>> We have metadata on language, location, country, metadata license, and
>> a few other things.
>>
>> We're excited about enabling a whole bunch of geospatial features very soon!
>>
>> http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-discuss/2011-September/001714.html
>>
>>> See you at OGD Camp!
>>
>> Look forward to it! ;-)
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>> James
>>> On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>
>>> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
>>> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
>>> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>>>
>>> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
>>> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
>>> the world [2].
>>>
>>> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
>>> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
>>> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
>>> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
>>> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
>>> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
>>> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
>>> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
>>> this yet.
>>>
>>> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
>>> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>>>
>>> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
>>> datasets from around the world.
>>>
>>> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
>>> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
>>> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
>>> [2] see
>>> http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
>>> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
>>> [3]
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>>>
>>> license, and URL:
>>>
>>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>>>
>>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>>>
>>> API is out in beta.
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>
>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>>
>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>
>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>>
>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>
>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>
>>> Anyone interested?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>
>>> Community Coordinator
>>>
>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>
>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>>>
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> Community Coordinator
>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>
>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
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>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>> http://www.okfn.org
>>
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Re: List of Canadian open data catalogs?

Jonathan Gray
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David,

Absolutely. :-)

My post on datacatalogs.org was *defending* the site against the
suggestion that we should all just use the dataset on BuzzData - as it
already had a list of open data hubs on it before we got started
(which simply isn't true!). Hence the stuff about there being existing
work on datacatalogs.org. I wasn't arguing that because we were first,
or because we have most people on board, that people shouldn't use
anything else!

While generally I understand the stuff about working in separate
places and merging later - for this to work in this case the person
who originally posted the dataset on BuzzData (Momoko? James?) would
have to drop the NC restriction - as that prevents it being pulled
back into initiatives like datacatalogs.org, which is openly licensed.
That would be really cool. Then perhaps we could look at ways of
comparing and exchanging data between the two.

Also datacatalogs.org was created in response to the issue that
several people *were* working on multiple lists - and the merging
never happened. Hence we had different lists, some of which were more
complete in different areas than others. The difficult bit was not so
much technological as social - to get everyone on the same page. I
worked really hard to convene representatives from all over the world
to help to maintain their respective bits. As I recall I even asked
your advice for Canadian government contacts, which resulted in
Sylvain Latour being added to represent Canada. ;-)

All the best,

Jonathan

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, David Eaves <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Alex (and everyone!)
>
> I say work where ever you think the tool is most effective. If that is at
> datacatalogs.org then do it there, but if it is at Buzzdata, do it there.
>
> I think claims to be the canonical place where the community has agreed to
> work are problematic and counter productive. If people can't work in lots of
> different places, then we've got big, big problems.
>
> More importantly, it is easy to export the data out of buzz and datacatalogs
> (i believe) so it should be easy to pull in the work from other platforms.
>
> I feel like there is a weird battle about platforms here and personally
> believe it needs to not be based on who convened who, but on what people
> find useful to their needs.
>
> David Eaves
>
> On 11-10-14 12:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alex!
>>
>> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
>> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
>> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>>
>> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
>> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
>> the world [2].
>>
>> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
>> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
>> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
>> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
>> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
>> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
>> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
>> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
>> this yet.
>>
>> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
>> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
>> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>>
>> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
>> datasets from around the world.
>>
>> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
>> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
>> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
>> [2] see
>> http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
>> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
>> [3]
>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed<[hidden email]>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for
>>> region,
>>> license, and URL:
>>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The
>>> BD
>>> API is out in beta.
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray<[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>>
>>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>>
>>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>>
>>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>>
>>>> Anyone interested?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jonathan Gray
>>>>
>>>> Community Coordinator
>>>> The Open Knowledge Foundation
>>>> http://www.okfn.org
>>>>
>>>> http://twitter.com/jwyg
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>>>
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Jonathan Gray
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On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:48 AM, James McKinney <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I think if a representative from the data hub steps forward, then the moderated edits model works. For those data hubs that are "orphaned", I think unmoderated edits may be better for the community. Anyway, something to consider.

You're right that we do need to find a balance, just in case things
slip through the cracks. I also noticed that we were getting spam - so
we need to think about this too. Lets talk more in Warsaw!

> I'd be happy to help curate the Canadian list of data hubs. My username is jpmckinney :)

Excellent - you are now an administrator. Shall I add you to the
'about' page? If so pop me what affiliation you'd like me to add off
list! http://datacatalogs.org/about

> Regarding David's point: Buzzdata has been great for working with others to put together a well-thought and nearly-complete CSV list of data catalogs. However, Buzzdata's mission is not to curate data catalogs and its platform supports the curation of one but is not specifically designed for the purpose. datacatalogs.org, on the other hand, does have this mission and is specifically designed for the purpose. So I see some value in choosing to perfect datacatalogs.org over other options. I don't think there's any sort of battle. For people who want to find information about data catalogs, what's important is: correctness, completeness, ease of use. datacatalogs.org is trying to do this, in a way that Buzzdata and others are not (you can't search inside Buzzdata's datasets without downloading them, for example). The problem with every comprehensive list so far is that it eventually goes stale. Based on the about page at datacatalogs.org, it looks like its authors have convinced
>  all the other list-makers (ePSIplatform, CivicCommons, CTIC, OKF, etc.) to work together on one list. Consolidation is a good thing in this case.
>
> Regarding what name to use for data catalogs, I'd be inclined to put the official name in the description, and a more standard name in the title. We'd have to do a survey to know, but my guess is most people know what jurisdiction they are interested in, and fewer know the local name of that jurisdiction's catalog. Oddly, the page now states that there are 18 catalogs in the group, but it only lists 17 (it is missing Vancouver). Also, North Vancouver seems not to have been added.

Fixed - North Vancouver and Vancouver have been added. It is now
showing 19 items. :-)

J.

> On 2011-10-14, at 4:59 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, James McKinney
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I was one of the contributors to that OKF
>>
>> Indeed you were! :-)
>>
>>> spreadsheet: http://opengovernmentdata.org/data/catalogues/ I came up with
>>> the region, etc. columns. Before it was a long list in which you couldn't
>>> filter by, e.g. "all Canadian catalogues". I also added catalogues and
>>> updated/removed incorrect listings.
>>
>> There was also this one from CTIC and a few more:
>>
>> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/
>>
>> We've been working with them and with others to have an intuitive way
>> to browse these and to plug in to a bunch of existing work on data
>> catalog interoperability (e.g. DCAT, federation and harvesting
>> mechanisms between different open source data hubs). Hence the plan
>> for datacatalogs.org.
>>
>>> The BuzzData dataset is probably very close in coverage to datacatalogs.org.
>>> It certainly has some that datacatalogs.org doesn't, and vice versa. (It
>>> also has statistics bureaus of all countries, but these are not catalogs and
>>> should be removed.)
>>> How does one edit datacatalogs.org? I tried editing a catalog, but the
>>> changes are not reflected in the public site. This discourages me from
>>> investing too much time improving your Canadian data catalog descriptors, as
>>> I have no idea what the process is.
>>
>> If you let me know your username I'll add you as an admin!
>>
>> datacatalogs.org is intended to be used by numerous official
>> institutions to maintain source lists, so we wanted to have the
>> ability for curation and editorial - as well as enabling anyone to
>> edit. Hence anyone can make edits, but they have to be approved by a
>> moderator before they show up on the site:
>>
>> http://ckan.org/2011/06/20/moderated-edits/
>>
>> My post to this list was soliciting for people who might be interested
>> in curating the Canadian list of open data catalogs.
>>
>>> Also, how does one add new catalogs and
>>> add catalogs to groups?
>>
>> If we make you an admin, all will be revealed. ;-)
>>
>> We could turn off moderation, but we also want government people to be
>> able use it to maintain official lists (rather than rolling their own
>> on an official website) - so some degree of moderation was a
>> requirement.
>>
>>> Anyway, you are missing:
>>> Ottawa http://www.ottawa.ca/online_services/opendata/index_en.html
>>> North Vancouver http://geoweb.dnv.org/
>>> Surrey http://www.surrey.ca/city-services/658.aspx
>>> British Columbia http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/
>>> Mississauga http://www.mississauga.ca/data
>>> Niagara Falls http://www.niagarafalls.ca/services/open/default.aspx
>>> Prince George
>>> http://princegeorge.ca/cityservices/online/odc/Pages/default.aspx
>>> Hamilton http://www.hamilton.ca/ProjectsInitiatives/OpenData/
>>> Burlington http://cms.burlington.ca/Page7429.aspx
>>> Windsor http://www.citywindsor.ca/003713.asp
>>
>> Fantastic! These are now added: http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>
>>> Also, http://www.opendatalondon.ca/ and http://montrealouvert.net/ do not
>>> belong, as there is nothing catalog-ish about them.
>>
>> Oops! I suspect these were inherited from the CTIC import. Zapped them both.
>>
>>> Better naming conventions would go a long way towards
>>> scannability/readability. The site's name is "Data Catalogs". Must the words
>>> "Data Catalog" appear in each data catalog title? Likewise, "Open Data"?
>>
>> We're trying to use the official name of the data catalog wherever
>> possible. E.g. saying 'data.gov.uk' rather than 'UK data catalog' or
>> even just 'UK'. We wanted to respect the variation in naming
>> conventions, so - e.g. - when someone looks for 'DataGM' (which is the
>> name of the open data portal for Manchester, UK) they find it.
>>
>> We have metadata on language, location, country, metadata license, and
>> a few other things.
>>
>> We're excited about enabling a whole bunch of geospatial features very soon!
>>
>> http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/ckan-discuss/2011-September/001714.html
>>
>>> See you at OGD Camp!
>>
>> Look forward to it! ;-)
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>> James
>>> On 2011-10-14, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>
>>> I think at least some of the information on BuzzData is based on work
>>> that I and others did as part of the Open Knowledge Foundation Working
>>> Group on Open Government Data [1].
>>>
>>> Back in May we had a meeting on this with many people who were
>>> involved in running data catalogs and lists of data catalogs around
>>> the world [2].
>>>
>>> Since then we've been working really hard to build consensus with key
>>> stakeholders in the open data community to have a single list of open
>>> data catalogues. This resulted in the release of datacatalogs.org in
>>> June 2011 at OKCon in Berlin, which Momoko was at [3]. I think
>>> BuzzData wasn't released until July, so I'm pretty sure the
>>> datacatalogs.org list predates the one you link to. We spoke to Pete
>>> and Momoko about interoperability between CKAN and BuzzData (which at
>>> the time they said was very important to them) but nothing has come of
>>> this yet.
>>>
>>> The site is curated by people interested in open data from all over
>>> the world. Some of the curators are listed here:
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/about
>>>
>>> The site is being used by various people interested in federating open
>>> datasets from around the world.
>>>
>>> It would be great to have some input from the Canadian open data
>>> community to coincide with the Open Government Data Camp
>>> (http://ogdcamp.org/) in Warsaw next week!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> [1] http://opengovernmentdata.org/
>>> [2] see
>>> http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/05/04/notes-from-data-catalogues-interoperability-workshop-edinburgh-3-4th-may-2011/
>>> and http://lod2.okfn.org/2011/06/07/next-steps-on-datacatalogs-org/
>>> [3]
>>> http://blog.okfn.org/2011/06/30/release-of-datacatalogs-org-to-map-open-data-around-the-world/
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Alex Lougheed <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> There's already an international set up on BuzzData, with fields for region,
>>>
>>> license, and URL:
>>>
>>> http://buzzdata.com/momoko/open-data-hubs-worldwide#!/overview
>>>
>>> I'd recommend contributing to that dataset, or building on top of it. The BD
>>>
>>> API is out in beta.
>>>
>>> A
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Gray <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've started a list of Canadian open data catalogs on datacatalogs.org:
>>>
>>> http://datacatalogs.org/group/canada
>>>
>>> It would be great if people in this group might be able to case an eye
>>>
>>> over it to check for completeness and accuracy.
>>>
>>> Tracey also said she'd be interested in helping to curate this. E.g. I
>>>
>>> think there are a few links here which are not yet added:
>>>
>>> http://datalibre.ca/links-resources/
>>>
>>> Anyone interested?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
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