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In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Tracey P. Lauriault
I have put in a request for the following datasets to data.gc.ca and to databc.ca
 
Statistics Canada, Health Canada and potentially the Public Health Agency of Canada collect vital statistics from the provinces, but I am not sure who produces all of these data and where they are stored.  Privacy would not be an issue as the aggregation is quite large.
 
For Canada, and by province and territory:
a) # of abortions + demographics
b) # of adoptions + demographics of canadian born children
c) # of live births + demographics
d) # of live births as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
e) # of abortions as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
I have also put a call out to see who does economic analysis in Canada on this topic.  The US has been scaring me senseless these days as I cannot recall in my reproductive lifetime this type of rhetoric and regressive policies and I am hoping to find someone in Canada who can do this type of analysis:
 
 
Any ideas?
 


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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Jonathan Brun-2
What announcement?


On 2012-03-15, at 8:03 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:

I have put in a request for the following datasets to data.gc.ca and to databc.ca
 
Statistics Canada, Health Canada and potentially the Public Health Agency of Canada collect vital statistics from the provinces, but I am not sure who produces all of these data and where they are stored.  Privacy would not be an issue as the aggregation is quite large.
 
For Canada, and by province and territory:
a) # of abortions + demographics
b) # of adoptions + demographics of canadian born children
c) # of live births + demographics
d) # of live births as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
e) # of abortions as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
I have also put a call out to see who does economic analysis in Canada on this topic.  The US has been scaring me senseless these days as I cannot recall in my reproductive lifetime this type of rhetoric and regressive policies and I am hoping to find someone in Canada who can do this type of analysis:
 
 
Any ideas?
 


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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Glen Newton
Ditto

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan Brun <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What announcement?
>
> Jonathan
> QuebecOuvert.org
> MontrealOuvert.net
> jonathanbrun.com
>
> On 2012-03-15, at 8:03 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>
> I have put in a request for the following datasets to data.gc.ca and to
> databc.ca
>
> Statistics Canada, Health Canada and potentially the Public Health Agency of
> Canada collect vital statistics from the provinces, but I am not sure who
> produces all of these data and where they are stored.  Privacy would not be
> an issue as the aggregation is quite large.
>
> For Canada, and by province and territory:
> a) # of abortions + demographics
> b) # of adoptions + demographics of canadian born children
> c) # of live births + demographics
> d) # of live births as a result of sexual assault including incest and
> statutory rape
> e) # of abortions as a result of sexual assault including incest and
> statutory rape
> I have also put a call out to see who does economic analysis in Canada on
> this topic.  The US has been scaring me senseless these days as I cannot
> recall in my reproductive lifetime this type of rhetoric and regressive
> policies and I am hoping to find someone in Canada who can do this type of
> analysis:
>
> Pregnancy Prevention and the Taxpayer:
> http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/05/pregnancy-prevention-and-the-taxpayer/
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Tracey P. Lauriault
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan Brun <[hidden email]> wrote:
What announcement?


On 2012-03-15, at 8:03 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:

I have put in a request for the following datasets to data.gc.ca and to databc.ca
 
Statistics Canada, Health Canada and potentially the Public Health Agency of Canada collect vital statistics from the provinces, but I am not sure who produces all of these data and where they are stored.  Privacy would not be an issue as the aggregation is quite large.
 
For Canada, and by province and territory:
a) # of abortions + demographics
b) # of adoptions + demographics of canadian born children
c) # of live births + demographics
d) # of live births as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
e) # of abortions as a result of sexual assault including incest and statutory rape
I have also put a call out to see who does economic analysis in Canada on this topic.  The US has been scaring me senseless these days as I cannot recall in my reproductive lifetime this type of rhetoric and regressive policies and I am hoping to find someone in Canada who can do this type of analysis:
 
 
Any ideas?
 


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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Russell McOrmond

On 12-03-16 10:10 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/House%2BCommons%2Bhold%2Babortion%2Brelated%2Bdebate%2BApril/6296017/story.html
> MPs http://www.stephenwoodworth.ca/ and thought that some of the
> community groups you work with might have some concerns.

   I know we worry that a debate on abortion could go a way that we
don't like, I think it is fruitful to ensure that we continue to discuss
the issue.


   In my mind legal abortions are like democracy itself:  it isn't at
all perfect, and sometimes (some might even say often) lead to very bad
decisions, but it is far better than the alternatives.


   We should be thankful that MP Stephen Woodworth is ensuring that
people from all walks of life are given additional opportunity to
observe and participate in debate that must be kept fresh in peoples
mind.  I fear a time when we might have politicians who have not
observed and participated in this debate enough to have given enough
thought to the consequences of making abortions illegal or making them
too socially acceptable.

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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Glen Newton
I think the concern is that this is not a debate, but the appearance
of a debate, and that this 'private member' (sorry, too ironic!) is
simple a stalking horse...

-Glen

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Russell McOrmond <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 12-03-16 10:10 AM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/House%2BCommons%2Bhold%2Babortion%2Brelated%2Bdebate%2BApril/6296017/story.html
>> MPs http://www.stephenwoodworth.ca/ and thought that some of the
>> community groups you work with might have some concerns.
>
>
>  I know we worry that a debate on abortion could go a way that we don't
> like, I think it is fruitful to ensure that we continue to discuss the
> issue.
>
>
>  In my mind legal abortions are like democracy itself:  it isn't at all
> perfect, and sometimes (some might even say often) lead to very bad
> decisions, but it is far better than the alternatives.
>
>
>  We should be thankful that MP Stephen Woodworth is ensuring that people
> from all walks of life are given additional opportunity to observe and
> participate in debate that must be kept fresh in peoples mind.  I fear a
> time when we might have politicians who have not observed and participated
> in this debate enough to have given enough thought to the consequences of
> making abortions illegal or making them too socially acceptable.
>
> --
>  Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/>
>  Please help us tell the Canadian Parliament to protect our property
>  rights as owners of Information Technology. Sign the petition!
>  http://l.c11.ca/ict
>
>  "The government, lobbied by legacy copyright holders and hardware
>  manufacturers, can pry my camcorder, computer, home theatre, or
>  portable media player from my cold dead hands!"
>
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Re: In light of today's announcement on re-opening the abortion debate in Canada

Russell McOrmond
On 12-03-16 10:37 AM, Glen Newton wrote:
> I think the concern is that this is not a debate, but the appearance
> of a debate, and that this 'private member' (sorry, too ironic!) is
> simple a stalking horse...

   The bill C-11 committee is fresh in my mind (clause-by-clause Monday
and Tuesday this week), so I know that politicians don't really "debate"
issues so much as give speeches on their own narrow and often
unsubstantiated opinions.

   That said, we in the civicaccess forum are thinking about this issue
-- even though that specific topic is off-topic for this forum --
because a politician forced it into our consciousness.

   Tracey did the right think and pointed us all to some relevant
government data on the topic -- with that data,  our access to it, and
what we as citizens are able to do by harnessing that data being what
this forum is all about.


   What the politician did is valuable in what it causes the general
Canadian population to do in response :-)


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