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In particular, I read the license the data is available under and
started grinning. It's based on the UK opengov license, but it's a custom BC version, which in this case may be good: a homegrown Canadian example, created by a provincial government. David Eaves wrote more this morning: http://eaves.ca/2011/07/19/province-of-bc-launches-open-data-catalog-what-works/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pamela MacDonald <[hidden email]> Date: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM Subject: [OpenDataBC] DataBC (Beta) is now live. To: OpenDataBC <[hidden email]> http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/dbc/index.page? The Province has launched their new site and included the first release of datasets in the link above. Pamela |
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It is good to have home grown, even better to build on international examples to foster greater legal and policy interoperability.
Canadian 'open data' licencing is a balkanized system. What is legal in one town or province/territory conflicts with another or other levels of government and also internationaly. Even apps developers are closing their apps and selling them with open data inside them, hardly in keeping with the ideas of openness - $ could be made with open source apps using open data - apps licencing and open data licencing.
It would be really great if we could encourage cities, provinces, territories, national departments and agencies to work more closely with CIPPIC and with each other to aim towards some sort of unity in licensing and understandings of what openness really is. The UK, New Zealand and Australia are examples of this type of CC licensing. They are Westminster systems like Canada's and we could embrace something like this if only we worked together more and worked with the public legal agencies that can best lead us toward better licensing. Open data citizens, I would argue, need to foreground licencing along with their hackfest ideals & apps development zeal.
I know this is a dry read, and that I have mentioned it on numerous occasions, but worth reading nonetheless - http://www.cippic.ca/open-licensing/.
Cheers t On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> wrote: In particular, I read the license the data is available under and -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 |
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Agreed on all counts, but let's be clear: the BC license is good. It's
a truism that every new license initially contributes to balkanization, but this is in several ways the best license I've seen so far on Canadian data (barring the PDDL, which doesn't seem likely to catch on widely here). It's heavily based on the successful UK national license. I definitely agree that open data citizens need to keep licensing in mind. And, unless there are problems with the BC license I haven't noticed, we now have an easy message to give Canadian data providers about licensing: "BC is the leader. Follow them." (Yes, we've already been able to say "Follow US/Australia/NZ." But a Canadian example is much more reassuring.) On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: > It is good to have home grown, even better to build on international > examples to foster greater legal and policy interoperability. > Canadian 'open data' licencing is a balkanized system. What is legal in one > town or province/territory conflicts with another or other levels of > government and also internationaly. Even apps developers are closing their > apps and selling them with open data inside them, hardly in keeping with the > ideas of openness - $ could be made with open source apps using open data - > apps licencing and open data licencing. > It would be really great if we could encourage cities, provinces, > territories, national departments and agencies to work more closely with > CIPPIC and with each other to aim towards some sort of unity in licensing > and understandings of what openness really is. The UK, New Zealand and > Australia are examples of this type of CC licensing. They are Westminster > systems like Canada's and we could embrace something like this if only we > worked together more and worked with the public legal agencies that can best > lead us toward better licensing. Open data citizens, I would argue, need to > foreground licencing along with their hackfest ideals & apps development > zeal. > I know this is a dry read, and that I have mentioned it on numerous > occasions, but worth reading nonetheless > - http://www.cippic.ca/open-licensing/. > Cheers > t > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> In particular, I read the license the data is available under and >> started grinning. It's based on the UK opengov license, but it's a >> custom BC version, which in this case may be good: a homegrown >> Canadian example, created by a provincial government. David Eaves >> wrote more this morning: >> >> http://eaves.ca/2011/07/19/province-of-bc-launches-open-data-catalog-what-works/ >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Pamela MacDonald <[hidden email]> >> Date: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM >> Subject: [OpenDataBC] DataBC (Beta) is now live. >> To: OpenDataBC <[hidden email]> >> >> >> http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/dbc/index.page? >> >> The Province has launched their new site and included the first >> release of datasets in the link above. >> >> Pamela >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > > > > -- > Tracey P. Lauriault > 613-234-2805 > http://traceyplauriault.ca/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss > |
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Michael, totally agree. Blogged on this this morn. My hope is that the uk ogl can become a standard we can rally the provinces and hopefully the feds around. I know there is some interest in the uk to turn the ogl into a structured license others can copy.
-- www.eaves.ca @daeaves Sent from my iPhone On 2011-07-19, at 10:02 AM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> wrote: > In particular, I read the license the data is available under and > started grinning. It's based on the UK opengov license, but it's a > custom BC version, which in this case may be good: a homegrown > Canadian example, created by a provincial government. David Eaves > wrote more this morning: > http://eaves.ca/2011/07/19/province-of-bc-launches-open-data-catalog-what-works/ > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Pamela MacDonald <[hidden email]> > Date: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM > Subject: [OpenDataBC] DataBC (Beta) is now live. > To: OpenDataBC <[hidden email]> > > > http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/dbc/index.page? > > The Province has launched their new site and included the first > release of datasets in the link above. > > Pamela > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss |
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On Tuesday, July 19, 2011, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It is good to have home grown, even better to build on international examples to foster greater legal and policy interoperability. > Canadian 'open data' licencing is a balkanized system. What is legal in one town or province/territory conflicts with another or other levels of government and also internationaly. Even apps developers are closing their apps and selling them with open data inside them, hardly in keeping with the ideas of openness - $ could be made with open source apps using open data - apps licencing and open data licencing. > I'm not sure what you are referencing when you speak about "open". >From my understanding, the possibility of making money has been part of open data since the beginning. And making money on open source has been a clear driver of its success and an important and appreciated factor for a long time - at least 15 years. I guess you're refering to "open" as a concept, but not "open data"? In terms of the use of the word "open" in conjuction with a lot of the tech movements (open publishing, open data, open source, open hardware, open networks, open culture, etc.) commercialization has always had a key role. I mention this only because I think we need more people promoting the commercial use of open data. :) <snip> > -- > Tracey P. Lauriault > 613-234-2805http://traceyplauriault.ca/ -- Michael Lenczner CEO, Ajah http://www.ajah.ca 514-400-4500 1-888-406-2524 (AJAH) |
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I also agree.
As someone who has bemoaned[1] the state of the non-Open licenses offered by Canadian cities (Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, Edmonton) in this forum and others, I am pleasantly thrilled with this true Open license, and hope other Canadian jurisdictions will follow this excellent lead. It's good to get some good Open news! :-) -Glen Newton [1]http://zzzoot.blogspot.com/2010/07/its-not-open-data-so-stop-calling-it.html On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> wrote: > Agreed on all counts, but let's be clear: the BC license is good. It's > a truism that every new license initially contributes to > balkanization, but this is in several ways the best license I've seen > so far on Canadian data (barring the PDDL, which doesn't seem likely > to catch on widely here). It's heavily based on the successful UK > national license. > > I definitely agree that open data citizens need to keep licensing in > mind. And, unless there are problems with the BC license I haven't > noticed, we now have an easy message to give Canadian data providers > about licensing: "BC is the leader. Follow them." > > (Yes, we've already been able to say "Follow US/Australia/NZ." But a > Canadian example is much more reassuring.) > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: >> It is good to have home grown, even better to build on international >> examples to foster greater legal and policy interoperability. >> Canadian 'open data' licencing is a balkanized system. What is legal in one >> town or province/territory conflicts with another or other levels of >> government and also internationaly. Even apps developers are closing their >> apps and selling them with open data inside them, hardly in keeping with the >> ideas of openness - $ could be made with open source apps using open data - >> apps licencing and open data licencing. >> It would be really great if we could encourage cities, provinces, >> territories, national departments and agencies to work more closely with >> CIPPIC and with each other to aim towards some sort of unity in licensing >> and understandings of what openness really is. The UK, New Zealand and >> Australia are examples of this type of CC licensing. They are Westminster >> systems like Canada's and we could embrace something like this if only we >> worked together more and worked with the public legal agencies that can best >> lead us toward better licensing. Open data citizens, I would argue, need to >> foreground licencing along with their hackfest ideals & apps development >> zeal. >> I know this is a dry read, and that I have mentioned it on numerous >> occasions, but worth reading nonetheless >> - http://www.cippic.ca/open-licensing/. >> Cheers >> t >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Michael Mulley <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> >>> In particular, I read the license the data is available under and >>> started grinning. It's based on the UK opengov license, but it's a >>> custom BC version, which in this case may be good: a homegrown >>> Canadian example, created by a provincial government. David Eaves >>> wrote more this morning: >>> >>> http://eaves.ca/2011/07/19/province-of-bc-launches-open-data-catalog-what-works/ >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Pamela MacDonald <[hidden email]> >>> Date: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:51 PM >>> Subject: [OpenDataBC] DataBC (Beta) is now live. >>> To: OpenDataBC <[hidden email]> >>> >>> >>> http://www.data.gov.bc.ca/dbc/index.page? >>> >>> The Province has launched their new site and included the first >>> release of datasets in the link above. >>> >>> Pamela >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> Tracey P. Lauriault >> 613-234-2805 >> http://traceyplauriault.ca/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > CivicAccess-discuss mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss -- - |
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