Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program

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Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program

Tracey P. Lauriault
Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education
Indicators Program December 2011
The Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program (PCEIP) provides a
statistical portrait of the elementary, secondary and postsecondary
education systems

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/81-582-x2011002-eng.htm

Lots of data available here -
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/2011002/sectiond-eng.htm#d1


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Re: Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program

Glen Newton
When you drill down to a dataset, SC offers HTML (not really a choice)
or XLS (a better, though proprietary, choice; XML would be the most
Open and neutral choice).
 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/access_acces/alternative_alternatif.action?l=eng&teng=Enrolment%20in%20postsecondary%20education&tfra=Effectifs%20aux%20%E9tudes%20postsecondaires&loc=/pub/81-582-x/2011002/excel/d1-eng.xls

SC then suggests a reader for this format: Excel Viewer 2003
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/relocate.cgi?l=E&loc=http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=en

Any reason they do not (also or instead) offer LibreOffice, which
supports Linux, Mac and Windows (and Yes, I know LO is more than a
viewer...).

Thanks,
Glen


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education
> Indicators Program December 2011
> The Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program (PCEIP) provides a
> statistical portrait of the elementary, secondary and postsecondary
> education systems
>
> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/81-582-x2011002-eng.htm
>
> Lots of data available here -
> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/2011002/sectiond-eng.htm#d1
>
>
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> 613-234-2805
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Re: Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program

Tracey P. Lauriault
Ask them Glen!

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Glen Newton <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When you drill down to a dataset, SC offers HTML (not really a choice)
> or XLS (a better, though proprietary, choice; XML would be the most
> Open and neutral choice).
>  http://www.statcan.gc.ca/access_acces/alternative_alternatif.action?l=eng&teng=Enrolment%20in%20postsecondary%20education&tfra=Effectifs%20aux%20%E9tudes%20postsecondaires&loc=/pub/81-582-x/2011002/excel/d1-eng.xls
>
> SC then suggests a reader for this format: Excel Viewer 2003
> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/relocate.cgi?l=E&loc=http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=en
>
> Any reason they do not (also or instead) offer LibreOffice, which
> supports Linux, Mac and Windows (and Yes, I know LO is more than a
> viewer...).
>
> Thanks,
> Glen
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education
>> Indicators Program December 2011
>> The Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program (PCEIP) provides a
>> statistical portrait of the elementary, secondary and postsecondary
>> education systems
>>
>> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/81-582-x2011002-eng.htm
>>
>> Lots of data available here -
>> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/2011002/sectiond-eng.htm#d1
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tracey P. Lauriault
>> 613-234-2805
>> _______________________________________________
>> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss
>
>
>
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Re: Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program

john whelan
In reply to this post by Glen Newton
Internally for cost reasons Stat Can uses the Microsoft suite on the desktop.  It also has or had a large number of UNIX enthusiasts so UNIX is understood there however the number of flavours of UNIX in use makes it awkward to support across the organisation.

Different surveys hold the data in different formats and they are now using tools such as Microsoft Biztalk to link data from different surveys together.  Each survey has its project manager who basically is concerned with lowest cost and recoding a survey from one format to another is a cost.  They used to have a site license for SAS so often the lowest cost option would be to use SAS.  If a survey wishes to recycle data from another survey then internally the two project managers reach an agreement on how much the second will pay the first for the data.

The corporate culture is not open data even internally.

Cheerio John

On 13 March 2012 14:55, Glen Newton <[hidden email]> wrote:
When you drill down to a dataset, SC offers HTML (not really a choice)
or XLS (a better, though proprietary, choice; XML would be the most
Open and neutral choice).
 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/access_acces/alternative_alternatif.action?l=eng&teng=Enrolment%20in%20postsecondary%20education&tfra=Effectifs%20aux%20%E9tudes%20postsecondaires&loc=/pub/81-582-x/2011002/excel/d1-eng.xls

SC then suggests a reader for this format: Excel Viewer 2003
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/relocate.cgi?l=E&loc=http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=en

Any reason they do not (also or instead) offer LibreOffice, which
supports Linux, Mac and Windows (and Yes, I know LO is more than a
viewer...).

Thanks,
Glen


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Education Indicators in Canada: Report of the Pan-Canadian Education
> Indicators Program December 2011
> The Pan-Canadian Education Indicators Program (PCEIP) provides a
> statistical portrait of the elementary, secondary and postsecondary
> education systems
>
> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/81-582-x2011002-eng.htm
>
> Lots of data available here -
> http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-582-x/2011002/sectiond-eng.htm#d1
>
>
> --
> Tracey P. Lauriault
> <a href="tel:613-234-2805" value="+16132342805">613-234-2805
> _______________________________________________
> CivicAccess-discuss mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.pwd.ca/mailman/listinfo/civicaccess-discuss



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