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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada (Bob Basques) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:26:21 +1000 From: Brendan Morley <[hidden email]> Subject: [Geodata] CommonMap in Canada To: [hidden email], [hidden email], [hidden email], [hidden email], [hidden email] Cc: Sam Vekemans <[hidden email]>, Baden <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=B0000FTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. [hidden email] http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geodata/attachments/20110314/096cc249/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 09:43:34 -0500 From: "Bob Basques" <[hidden email]> Subject: [Geodata] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CommonMap in Canada To: <[hidden email]>,<[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]> Cc: Sam Vekemans <[hidden email]>, Baden <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <4D7DE346020000A800027912@heckle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brendan, Have you figured out how other entities (like countries or ??) might implement a similar service node that could interact with your framework design? bobb >>> Brendan Morley <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to let you know that the CommonMap initiative is still alive, as am I. To recap, CommonMap will be a collaboration and repository of liberally-licensed geodata (without share-alike) - accessible though an OpenStreetMap-style interface. We will accept Creative Commons Attribution, CC0 and public domain geodata contributions, depending on your jurisdiction. We expect it will find fresh acceptance in the "Gov 2.0" movement, since it allows governments to redistribute contributions from the community. We also are quite happy to accept OpenStreetMap contributors who find themselves dissatisfied with its default licence. We want to focus on a particular country at first, which is Canada. Why? * It has quite a comprehensive open data catalogue; * It appears to have a compatible licence; * It also has a rigorous "foreign key" model, which bodes well for roundtripping back to government; * It's the home of Refractions Research, the custodian of PostGIS which is a good friend of mine; * Finally, it helps that Sam Vekemans is our enthusiastic man on the ground over there. We want to get as much of Natural Resources Canada's GeoBase and Canvec publications into the CommonMap database as we can, and use Canada as a showcase country for what CommonMap can uniquely do. The "proof of concept" API instance is currently at http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/ It is hosting an overlay of: * Natural Earth Data; * Some sample Geobase National Road Network, National Hydro Network and Land Cover datasets. (Hint: look up Victoria, British Columbia[1] for an example of all 3 datasets together.) Next comes the challenge of ramping up to a public launch. The core of CommonMap is a web-facing API and its "one true" database, a download site for XML full copies of that database, and a map tile server with its optimised database. To run this at public scale will demand about 8-10 CPU cores and associated storage, or about US $10,000 per year. Let's face it, we will require a higher rate of donations to do this. If you believe in the idea of CommonMap, a good way to show your support is to donate to CommonMap Inc. (CommonMap Inc is the non profit body that operates the CommonMap internet resources.) Potential donors, please head this way: http://www.commonmap.org/page/donate Even if you can't spare the cash, perhaps you can spare your skills or tools, whether they be in geodesy, obtaining or converting geodata imports, running up database or tile servers, or developing applications? Let us know. Please feel free to forward this news to whoever you wish. I welcome all comments: You can make further enquires by return email, the commonmap.org website, or "CommonMap" at LinkedIn, Facebook or Twitter. Sam Vekemans also has a group blog for CommonMap set up at Posterous. Thanks, Brendan [1] http://api.development.i386.commonmap.org/?lat=48.821&lon=-123.574&zoom=9&layers=B0000FTF -- Brendan Morley President, CommonMap Inc. [hidden email] http://commonmap.org/ Queensland Incorporated Association 37762 Also find us on Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geodata/attachments/20110314/2b75fd4a/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Geodata mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata End of Geodata Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 ************************************** -- Tracey P. Lauriault 613-234-2805 http://traceyplauriault.ca/ |
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Just as background the original concept of OpenStreetMap was that people could create maps from hand held GPS devices which avoid payment to UK Ordnance Survey and other European map makers for maps. A range of software and a set of standards were developed.
In Europe they have much higher densities of mappers to areas to map so they put more emphasis on individual's contributions. In other countries such as Canada we have more Open Data available and fewer mappers. For example we have CANVEC data available which is of high quality and thanks to the efforts of those in this mailing group and others we have the possibility of importing data from the cities such as Ottawa,Toronto Vancouver etc. So it makes much more sense to import data. Some in OpenStreetMap are not receptive to data imports and have raised questions about whether even house numbers should be imported from CANVEC, they feel we should rely on individual mappers going round and recording them. There is also an issue with the accuracy of the handheld GPS devices some are more accurate than others. OpenStreetMap is changing its license to be more restrictive especially with regard to imported data and the OSM license restricts being able to send updates to CANVEC etc. CommonMap uses the OSM tool set and standards but has a more open license. From an end user point of view CommonMap looks as if it will be a little more reliable and much more friendly to data exchange. Cheerio John On 14 March 2011 14:10, Tracey P. Lauriault <[hidden email]> wrote: See forwarded list messages below |
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